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Old 07-02-2013, 01:09 PM   #51
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With a .380 you have less recoil than a .45 allowing quicker follow up shots. Those who do not believe one .380 round to center mass can stop someone are mistaken.
Use good defensive ammo in a .380 and you are good to go. If the Perp keeps coming after you shoot him you continue shooting. Shoot until the threat is cleared.
Also you might find it interesting that many Perps use a .380 in their crimes. STOP thinking that bad guys are Godzilla. They will go down if you continue shooting.

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With a .380 you have less recoil than a .45 allowing quicker follow up shots. Those who do not believe one .380 round to center mass can stop someone are mistaken.
Use good defensive ammo in a .380 and you are good to go. If the Perp keeps coming after you shoot him you continue shooting. Shoot until the threat is cleared.
Also you might find it interesting that many Perps use a .380 in their crimes. STOP thinking that bad guys are Godzilla. They will go down if you continue shooting.
Ok I'm a 380 fan!! I carry one on hot summer days!! But it can't compare to a 45 round or a 357!! And I've shot plenty of tame 45s with very little recoil, but have the size to absorb the energy!! People carry 380s for the size not for the ideal power!! I carry a sub 9 or a very small 380, both are pretty testy with recoil because of there small size and weight!! HD I want a magnum for knock Down power!! You hit someone with a 357 or a 44 or a 45 your most likely will put them on the ground no matter where you hit!! That's not necessarily true with a 380! And if there on the ground you should have the needed time for follow up shots!! Give me 2 rounds of 45 or 357 against 6 rounds of 380 power and I will win 8 out of 10 gun fights!! And I'm just an average shooter!! But I love 380, great conceal gun!! However, I've never found a use or a need for a full size 380!! Still scratch my head when I see people buying an oversized, underpowered guns- but you are correct about center mass!! I'm strictly talking about shots that are off the kill areas, probably about 75 percent of the body or more!!
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Just a thought on the larger .380's, a small lady or weaker senior may be better able to deal with the light recoil of a heavier .380 than that of a pocket pistol. Also, if they draw it, a would-be assailant would not be able to differentiate between a .380 vs a 9MM at a glance, so it may cause him to back down when he'd have been fool enough to ignore a smaller gun.

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Just a thought on the larger .380's, a small lady or weaker senior may be better able to deal with the light recoil of a heavier .380 than that of a pocket pistol. Also, if they draw it, a would-be assailant would not be able to differentiate between a .380 vs a 9MM at a glance, so it may cause him to back down when he'd have been fool enough to ignore a smaller gun.
Good points!! I knew there was reasons-
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Dang! I wasn't planning on taking the bug to the range this week, but all this talk....guess I'll slip it in the pocket & a couple boxes in the bag.

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Ok I'm a 380 fan!! I carry one on hot summer days!! But it can't compare to a 45 round or a 357!! And I've shot plenty of tame 45s with very little recoil, but have the size to absorb the energy!! People carry 380s for the size not for the ideal power!! I carry a sub 9 or a very small 380, both are pretty testy with recoil because of there small size and weight!! HD I want a magnum for knock Down power!! You hit someone with a 357 or a 44 or a 45 your most likely will put them on the ground no matter where you hit!! That's not necessarily true with a 380! And if there on the ground you should have the needed time for follow up shots!! Give me 2 rounds of 45 or 357 against 6 rounds of 380 power and I will win 8 out of 10 gun fights!! And I'm just an average shooter!! But I love 380, great conceal gun!! However, I've never found a use or a need for a full size 380!! Still scratch my head when I see people buying an oversized, underpowered guns- but you are correct about center mass!! I'm strictly talking about shots that are off the kill areas, probably about 75 percent of the body or more!!
I agree with your assessment. A .45 ACP round repeated ten times in a light carry gun such as the Para Warthog is easy to carry and effective, but you better be ready for some muzzle flip and recoil! The heavier .380 guns are great for introducing new people to the sport or for range training to make new shooters comfortable with the round. They can fire a "real" defense round and practice breathing, stance, trigger control and use of safeties without feeling like the gun is going to jump out of their hand or punish them with recoil. I always use full-size steel frame to train new shooters because I don't want recoil scaring them away. As shooters get used to each round, they begin to understand the power/ carry weight/reward ratio and can make an informed decision as to how they want to handle their own self defense.
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Dang! I wasn't planning on taking the bug to the range this week, but all this talk....guess I'll slip it in the pocket & a couple boxes in the bag.
I just love posts like this! Read, learn, re-evaluate. Good job, danolator, you'll be better prepared if you ever have to use it. :-D
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I agree with your assessment. A .45 ACP round repeated ten times in a light carry gun such as the Para Warthog is easy to carry and effective, but you better be ready for some muzzle flip and recoil! The heavier .380 guns are great for introducing new people to the sport or for range training to make new shooters comfortable with the round. They can fire a "real" defense round and practice breathing, stance, trigger control and use of safeties without feeling like the gun is going to jump out of their hand or punish them with recoil. I always use full-size steel frame to train new shooters because I don't want recoil scaring them away. As shooters get used to each round, they begin to understand the power/ carry weight/reward ratio and can make an informed decision as to how they want to handle their own self defense.
Re your mention of the Para Warthog, it is a great gun so far as accuracy for its size, stopping power, and is easy enough to carry in a belt holster under a loose shirt. But it doesn't work well in a pocket because of its thickness. The biggest problem with my Warthog is that the lower rear corner of the grip digs into the palm of my hand, just in front of the heel of my thumb when I fire it. After about a box of ammo, my hand starts to get kinda sore. But the little .380 rides well in a pocket and is perfectly comfortable to shoot.
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No matter what caliber I carry, its the piece of mind of having a gun for that just in case moment!

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First of all a bad guy is not going to ignore or dismiss any gun you pull. Bad guys do not want to get shot any more than you do. Besides if you draw you should be shooting before he has a chance to think much. Remember, we are not having a gunfight at 12 paces in the street like Wyatt Earp did. The bad guy will not be ready for your gun or know when it is coming.

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