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Old 05-23-2013, 02:19 AM   #21
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So have you tested it for penetration and expansion?
Nope, only critical defense. It is okay, good reliable expansion but not great penetration. I use staggered stacking with it now. I believe firmly in CorBon products and their theory of velocity as King.
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Someone breaks into your home, you hear them. You have no gun but you remember there are knives in the kitchen. As you start your way to the kitchen the bad guy appears, about 20 feet away from you, he has a knife in his hand and he's big.

As you wonder if this is the day you die, you think to yourself that a .380 with HP's would sure help out this situation.

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I would probably be wishing for a flamethrower, especially if it is a rental.

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Someone breaks into your home, you hear them. You have no gun but you remember there are knives in the kitchen. As you start your way to the kitchen the bad guy appears, about 20 feet away from you, he has a knife in his hand and he's big.

As you wonder if this is the day you die, you think to yourself that a .380 with HP's would sure help out this situation.
I'd wish more for a 380 with fmj.
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I carry a .380 Sig P238 when I am not dressed to cover a larger gun. I have watched every video of .380 gel testing that I can find and read every article I could find on .380 ballistic testing. If you carry a .380 load it with +P Buffalo Bore ammo. I load the first shot or two JHP and the rest are FMJ. I would think that Underwood ammo would do as well. If I could carry only one gun anytime I wanted it would be my Sig P229 in .357 Sig. but when I do have to carry the .380 I feel pretty safe.

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Someone breaks into your home, you hear them. You have no gun but you remember there are knives in the kitchen. As you start your way to the kitchen the bad guy appears, about 20 feet away from you, he has a knife in his hand and he's big.

As you wonder if this is the day you die, you think to yourself that a .380 with HP's would sure help out this situation.
I'd wish for a Marine squad. They usually have "Doc" covered, and can take care of the dirty work.
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Shot placement. Whether it's a .380, .22 LR or a .45 I believe that shot placement is more important than the type of ammo. I also believe that when you talk shot placement that 2 in the chest and 1 to the head will often take the meanness out of a bad guy. And it will do so with good effect. One must remember that many crimes are committed by people who are high on intoxicants such as illegal narcotics or have consumed large amounts of alcohol. Any attack that they launch on you will be done so in some kind of chemically induced stupor which will pretty much almost require one to stop their attack with a shot through the head/brain/CNS. So that makes the practical application of good ammunition, be it hollow point or ball ammo, a situation where shot placement is as important as any other aspect involving personal defense.
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380's dont expand in flesh. shoot some animals, prove it to yourself. They penetrate plenty. the clothing debris plugs the hp cavity and the rd lacks enough velocity to 'clear" it as it penetrates flesh. There''s no reason to settle for such feeble loads, guys. Diamondback has a 9mm that's the size of a Colt Mustang 380 and it weighs just 11 ozs. with the right load, a 9mm can be 3x as effective as any factory 380 load.

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From reading thru the thread, I think we should all, including myself, include a few more trips to the gym. Truth is that if you can shoot somebody with a .380 and they can still kick your ass, then it's time to put in some time at the gym!

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who says they are kicking your ass, as vs shooting you multiple times, or hacking you to pieces with the crowbar that they used to break in, hmm? jello blocks mean nothing. When you shoot animals, you see nothing like the same performance 'shown" in Jello videos and photos. Don't take my word for it. Pop some chucks, coons, skunks, feral cats,possums, see for yourself. The P232 is larger and heavier than some of today's 9mm's, so why settle for having less than 1/2 as much power as you could have had in a smaller, lighter package, which costs less?

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