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jimogden1984 02-08-2012 01:34 PM

.380 defence rounds
 
going to be buying the sig p238 soon as a back up to my 1911 or to for summertime carry when my clothes don't allow me to conceal a bigger gun (I'm a jeans and t shirt guy, this probably won't happen often). I've never had a .380 and was wondering what sd rounds you guys would recommend to keep in it. I've carried for a couple of years now but the only 2 pistols I've owned was a .357 snubby which I recently sold to my cousin and my 1911 which is now my carry piece. I've test fired a used p238 but other than that have no expeience with something this small.

robocop10mm 02-08-2012 01:46 PM

The Speer Gold Dot seems to feed like ball. It expands well and penetrates properly because of the weight retention (100%)

jimogden1984 02-08-2012 02:37 PM

Thanks, ill def check em out

willfully armed 02-08-2012 02:56 PM

Buffalo bore 90gr hardcast.

Gonzilla 02-08-2012 03:26 PM

Gun test - sample issue - performed some test on a variety of 380 fodder and everything failed the penetration test except fmj. Of course, everyone went nutz, questioning everything about the test.

No, I do not recall all the loads except Critical defense was not among them. No one likes to read about their SD load not making the grade but mouse guns do not have the velocity of the full size counterparts.

gollygee 02-08-2012 06:22 PM

Three that did well in ammo tests I have seen:

Corbon DPX (Barnes solid copper bullet)

Buffalo Bore, also with the Barnes bullet

Winchester PDX1 Bonded

All expanded real well with the Buffalo Bore getting a slight edge on penetration. If I remember correctly, they had 9" to 10" penetration after correction to FBI 'gel' specs. That's slightly under what the FBI requires, but still enough to reach vital areas. The Corbon DPX has passed expansion tests even when shot through sheet metal barriers.

PanBaccha 02-08-2012 08:06 PM

I have both the FMJ PMC and Hornady Critial Defense HP in my mag & chamber.

treehugger49 02-10-2012 05:57 PM

I go FMJ all the way in a .380 - just not enough penetration to suit me with the other flavors.

As far as Hornady goes, I was running some .380 Hornady Critical Defense through my LCP a couple of years ago and experienced two hard primer strikes out of my first three mags (18 rounds). I emailed Hornady with lot numbers multiple times to inquire as to a possible problem and never got any answer whatsoever back from them.

Google it and you'll see quite a bit of controversy over their choice of primers back then - but their customer service didn't seem to care one bit. I'm done with Hornady's pistol ammo.

Ranger-6 02-10-2012 06:01 PM

.380 ACP Tactical Ammunition

Buffalo Bore: 380 ACP +P 95 grain 1125/267 JHP #27D/20
Corbon: 380 Auto +P 90 grain 1050/220 fps JHP #SD38090-20
Hornady: 380 Auto 90 grain XTP 1000/200 JHP #90102
Remington: 380 ACP 102 grain 940/200 fps JHP #GS380B
Winchester: Supreme Elite 380 95 grain 1000/211 JHP PDX1 #S380PDB

jimogden1984 02-10-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by treehugger49
I go FMJ all the way in a .380 - just not enough penetration to suit me with the other flavors.

As far as Hornady goes, I was running some .380 Hornady Critical Defense through my LCP a couple of years ago and experienced two hard primer strikes out of my first three mags (18 rounds). I emailed Hornady with lot numbers multiple times to inquire as to a possible problem and never got any answer whatsoever back from them.

Google it and you'll see quite a bit of controversy over their choice of primers back then - but their customer service didn't seem to care one bit. I'm done with Hornady's pistol ammo.

I don't know, it might be not be very realistic comin out of a .380 but I've always kept hp in everything I carry for fear of overpenetration


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