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Old 01-27-2013, 10:02 PM   #21
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In the 1860s a group of States told the Federal Government what the Feds could and could not do in their States. After four years of bloodshed the Feds won and the States lost. To my knowledge, nothing, in the law, has changed since then.

The notion of "States Rights" died at Appomattox Court House. (check the history books)

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sad but true THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!

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sad but true THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!
I am also a card carrying SOCV, but I have no notion, or no desire, that the South will ever take up arms against the Federal Government again. After all, we are One Nation, Under God.
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In the 1860s a group of States told the Federal Government what the Feds could and could not do in their States. After four years of bloodshed the Feds won and the States lost. To my knowledge, nothing, in the law, has changed since then.

The notion of "States Rights" died at Appomattox Court House. (check the history books)
If s state arrests ATF agents and put them in jail the Fed gov't will notsend the US military and will nt send a SWAT team to rescue them.
Doing so would start a civil war.

The good guys are making the right moves here.
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In the 1860s a group of States told the Federal Government what the Feds could and could not do in their States. After four years of bloodshed the Feds won and the States lost. To my knowledge, nothing, in the law, has changed since then.

The notion of "States Rights" died at Appomattox Court House. (check the history books)
BS, through and through. The 9th and 10th amendments did not die with the end of the civil war, they were never repealed from The Constitution of the United States of America, and The Constitution did not end with the re-election of Obama.

You can quit the dramatic comparisons. The civil war was fought over the rights of states to secede from the union. Lincoln freed the slaves through EO, using his wartime powers, then demanded the Southern States free their slaves upon re-admission to the Union. The South took the deal, because that's all they were going to get. They were more worried about being hanged for treason.

But to say, "The North won", there's no states rights, is complete and utter BS, misinformation or outright deception.

The civil war settled the secession argument. Not states rights, not by a long shot. That's how Obamacare passed, it was cited as a tax. And the Supreme Court DID look to see if the federal overstepped their bounds.
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you may want to reconsider that notion chainfire their are many Tobacco farmers/ coal folks and oil folks who are down right tired of the government along with many many common folk not just in the south but all NATION i feel the winds of REVOLT coming the government is going to keep pushing and i belive folks have had enuff just look at the all the Petitions for States to Succed from the Union again Most if not all the Original 13 states in the CSA bypassed the number by great numbers let alone alot of northern western states did also!

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