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I had more than one teacher that was as crazy as a bed-bug. What will they do when an armed teacher kills kids?
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A nut case teacher is not going to wait until they get approval to carry before they start shooting people. Either they are a threat or they are not. And if my kid had a nut case teacher I would feel better if their were an armed one next door.
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12-19-2012, 04:04 AM
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I'd rather my own son see me die on my feet as a free man, than watch him go, broken, into slavery.
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Tada!!! Dammit, that common sense that supposedly isn't so common is flowing like the blood of the dragons I slay while riding my flying unicorn. And yes, I really have a unicorn. He's offended that C3 wants to barbeque him.
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12-19-2012, 11:25 AM
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Just think about it. If one teacher had a gun, they could have stopped that guy. They could have stopped him before any kids were killed. One bullet could have changed it all.
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12-19-2012, 12:43 PM
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I had more than one teacher that was as crazy as a bed-bug. What will they do when an armed teacher kills kids?
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That's why I think there should be more than one with a ccw in the school. Having only one is not a good idea because there's nobody else armed to stop him/her. Imo there should be a ratio, like two staffers with a ccw per every 100 kids or something like that. That way you have all areas of the building or campus covered.
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12-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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Does anybody remember how the school shooting in Pearl, MS way back in 1997 was stopped? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_High_School_shooting
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The school's assistant principal, Joel Myrick, retrieved a .45 pistol from his truck and, spotting him near the parking lot, shouted for Woodham to stop. Woodham instead got into a his mother's car and tried to escape. Myrick, a US Army Reserve commander, detained Woodham until authorities arrived.[8][9]
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It worked on that dumbass; it can work again on dumbasses yet to come.
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12-19-2012, 02:25 PM
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I don't think the issue is teachers being stable and shooting kids is the issue. The bigger issue is that your putting more guns into schools that at one point or another could be accessible to angry and bullied kids in a moment of anger. A 300 lbs 6 foot 5 kid that wants to get that gun from his teacher WILL get that gun from his teacher. I think an armed security guard outside the classroom patrolling the grounds or stationed at the main entrance is a better and safer move for all parties. Just my thoughts.
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12-19-2012, 02:31 PM
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I'd rather my own son see me die on my feet as a free man, than watch him go, broken, into slavery.
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I think several of us, myself included, think that an armed security force would be the better option than arming teachers in the classroom. But the cost...
Yeah, I see assuming teachers as a great idea. But I do see a dedicated security force within the school as a better idea. But someone's gotta pay for it. Most of us here would gladly help foot the bill. It's everyone else we'd have to convince...
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I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillement of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause, and lies exhausted on the field of battle... Victorious.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
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12-19-2012, 02:53 PM
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Every healthy-minded adult in the U.S. should carry a gun wherever he chooses, including teachers in schools. The problem is in identifying the small percentage of people who have mental problems, especially the ones who know how they should act in public to cover up their sick motives and objectives. But if I were in a position to make the rules, I'd certainly want the teachers to be armed. They should be scrutinized for any documented things in their past that would have a bearing on the issue, and given psychological tests to make sure they are OK. They should be given training in how, when, and when not to use deadly force. There should also be the consideration of whether a given individual is physically able to keep his/her gun from being taken by a student. A security force worth having would have to be more than just a rent-a-cop who roams the halls and flirts with the girls (or boys). There would need to be several security officers, depending upon the size and population of the school. This would be very expensive, which may be the main reason it isn't implemented in most schools.
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12-19-2012, 02:55 PM
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Israel has armed teachers for a long time.
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12-19-2012, 03:01 PM
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Every healthy-minded adult in the U.S. should carry a gun wherever he chooses, including teachers in schools. The problem is in identifying the small percentage of people who have mental problems, especially the ones who know how they should act in public to cover up their sick motives and objectives. But if I were in a position to make the rules, I'd certainly want the teachers to be armed. They should be scrutinized for any documented things in their past that would have a bearing on the issue, and given psychological tests to make sure they are OK. There should also be the consideration of whether a given individual is physically able to keep his/her gun from being taken by a student. A security force worth having would have to be more than just a rent-a-cop who roams the halls and flirts with the girls (or buys). There would need to be several security officers, depending upon the size and population of the school. This would be very expensive, which may be the main reason it isn't implemented in most schools.
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This would not go well with the teachers unions as they would probably find a percentage of the teachers are unfit to teach let alone carry.
Arm the women since there is nothing more vicious than a woman protecting kids.
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