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flybuddy 07-01-2013 09:56 PM

Guns in the movies
 
Just saw "The Heat". It's amazing how casually they wave guns around. Waving guns at waitresses, nurses, etc is simply not funny and sets too casual an example for the general public. Grown ups 2 shows a trailer where their friend, who is a cop, pulls a gun on them in a public area to make them dance around.
Hollywood just went through denial about promoting violence and how that relates to mass shootings. Showing people who threaten anyone and everyone with guns, comedy or not, is simply not wise.
At the end of The Three Stooges, there were several minutes of disclaimers regarding poking eyes, rubber hammers, etc (don't do this at home). Doesn't seem to be any concern about the misuse of guns though.

TekGreg 07-03-2013 06:19 AM

Hollywood is one of our greatest enemies. Run by liberals, they extort every gun fallacy and perpetrate it on the American public with impunity. If a major production house was ever successfully sued for their irresponsible actions, we may see a more responsible portrayal. Until then, email or call every producer, director and production company you see endangering the public with their asinine portrayal and tell them that you will be doing a media-wide campaign against them (posting to Facebook, Twitter and here qualifies) and that you expect them to be more responsible. If they can stop portraying cigarette smoking, they can also be more responsible about gun portrayal.

cottontop 07-03-2013 04:31 PM

When Elmer Fudd shoots Bugs Bunny in the face with his side by side shotgun, all that happens is that Buggs gets a dirty face.
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Daoust_Nat 07-05-2013 01:12 AM

These guys don't care a whit about gun safety. After all this is; "just entertainment!" Yet they want us, who operate safely, to give up our guns and just watch their entertainment. I don't think so. They should have to show they are operating under NRA style safety....... as if that would happen!

spottedpony 07-05-2013 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by flybuddy (Post 1292338)
Just saw "The Heat". It's amazing how casually they wave guns around. Waving guns at waitresses, nurses, etc is simply not funny and sets too casual an example for the general public. Grown ups 2 shows a trailer where their friend, who is a cop, pulls a gun on them in a public area to make them dance around.
Hollywood just went through denial about promoting violence and how that relates to mass shootings. Showing people who threaten anyone and everyone with guns, comedy or not, is simply not wise.
At the end of The Three Stooges, there were several minutes of disclaimers regarding poking eyes, rubber hammers, etc (don't do this at home). Doesn't seem to be any concern about the misuse of guns though.

My biggest pet peeve about the entertainment industry's portrayal of firearms and usage, is how lightly the act of shooting someone is represented. Famous actor "X" can shoot a bunch of bad guys, and 2 minutes later he's laughing and joking about it. Its no wonder we see the shooting incidents we've seen by young people who've been brainwashed by these shows, that death is ok.
Why doesnt this entertainment accurately represent the nightmares, psychological problems, sleepless nights, the endless evaluations, fitness board reviews, and so on, an officer actually goes through after a duty related shooting.
Like many others here, I did my duty in Nam, and had a number of years in law enforcement afterwards. one shooting incident as LEO, and i prefer not to try to do a count on Nam related deaths. As much as I realize that war time sometimes requires things of us we'd rather not engage in, I regret every one of the lives I've taken, even though any one of them could have stopped mine in a heartbeat.
And while i respect everyones right regarding the first amendment, its about time the entertainment industry stops hiding behind the 1st portraying anything violent no matter how inaccurate, or distasteful, simply for the sake of an almighty dollar.
Its about time they take responsibility for they're actions.

cottontop 07-07-2013 04:53 PM

I was a kid in the 50's and early 60's and watched lots of tv Westerns where everybody wore a handgun on their hip and guys were always getting shot and no blood ever (or rarely maybe a trickle) was seen and guys were always getting shot in the arm or in the hand and instead of the arm getting blown off, it was just a minor injury. Anyway, seeing all of this never made me or anyone I knew not have respect for firearms, nor did any of us become blood thirsty criminals. Now, at least in movies, shootings are very graphic and gross. I'm not so sure that either of these scenarios have much to do with how our culture uses and/or looks at firearms. Primates tend to be on the violent side by nature. Artificial influences will have little to do with it.
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hawkguy 07-07-2013 08:50 PM

detachment from reality
 
you want to know what i hate about guns in the movies?

the rating system. apparently you get a PG13 rating if you show someone shot and killed and falling over like they went for a quiet nap. if you show gore, coughing blood, crapping yourself and thrashing around, you get an R rating. basically, you get R for showing REALITY. we just had a group of posters who were SHOCKED at the brutality of A DOG getting shot. i have think this is because after seeing FANTASY killing so much, people start to believe that is what killing really looks like. sad...but true i think.

and another thing in unrealisim....how often do you see someone getting hit in butt or arm with a gun and then shaking it off in a movie? i have only seen 1 video of someone shot in the butt, and that large man DROPPED like a sack of potatoes and was done. i personally knew a kid that got shot in the hand WITH A 22, and was still did not have the full use of his hand A YEAR LATER.

hollywood has too many people believing fantasy when it comes to guns, imo that is dangerous.

nitestalker 07-07-2013 08:59 PM

In the 1950s movie producers had to follow a strict code. The use of firearms in the Westerns etc. was strictly controlled. Blood and bullet holes were not allowed. In such scripts as the Lone Ranger the Ranger never ever killed a BG always shot the gun from their hands.
There were such rules as no semi-auto pistols and no shoulder holsters. These items related to real criminals. It was a different world.:)

AIKIJUTSU 07-09-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkguy (Post 1297809)
you want to know what i hate about guns in the movies?

the rating system. apparently you get a PG13 rating if you show someone shot and killed and falling over like they went for a quiet nap. if you show gore, coughing blood, crapping yourself and thrashing around, you get an R rating. basically, you get R for showing REALITY. we just had a group of posters who were SHOCKED at the brutality of A DOG getting shot. i have think this is because after seeing FANTASY killing so much, people start to believe that is what killing really looks like. sad...but true i think.

and another thing in unrealisim....how often do you see someone getting hit in butt or arm with a gun and then shaking it off in a movie? i have only seen 1 video of someone shot in the butt, and that large man DROPPED like a sack of potatoes and was done. i personally knew a kid that got shot in the hand WITH A 22, and was still did not have the full use of his hand A YEAR LATER.

hollywood has too many people believing fantasy when it comes to guns, imo that is dangerous.

Yep. Remember the old line, "It's only a flesh wound"? As if a "flesh wound" can't cause the guy to bleed to death. Or if they were shot in the leg, it apparently didn't cause them any pain? It was just a minor inconvenience, and they'd hobble around for a day, then be OK.
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Vikingdad 07-09-2013 08:10 PM

I remember when I first fired a rifle. I was seriously disappoints that there was not a big explosion from the target area, and this was a long time before the current crop of special effects in the movies! The influence of the movies has long affected our perception of reality, not just regarding firearms, but in many other ways too. I was reading earlier about the new Lone Ranger movie and how Tonto, played by Johnny Depp, was not an accurate depiction of a native American (not sure what tribe Tonto was supposed to be). One Native American commented that she was happy that a white guy played the part because among her people the Tonto character is a disgrace to the races, and Depp plays the part with more respect to the Tribes than has been done before (according to the article in the Smithsonian).

I haven't been to the movies in years though, so what do I know?


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