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Old 08-24-2012, 04:47 PM   #21
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Yes it happens here all the time, especially in the summer when it is hot, 19 people is a slow night on a weekend and average for mid week. You don't hear much about it because it is mostly gang or minority on minority violence and the Chicago political machine wants to keep it quiet so their ideas on control do not come into question. I have no problem if gang members take each other out, but there are a lot of times when innocents get caught in the crossfire, or are victims of an armed thug.
I have lived and will continue to live such a sheltered life.
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It appears that in the heat of the moment, the police shot 8 or 9 innocent bystanders while "shooting it out" with the gunman. The story is still developing, but it will be interesting to see how this is handled by NYPD.
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It appears that in the heat of the moment, the police shot 8 or 9 innocent bystanders while "shooting it out" with the gunman. The story is still developing, but it will be interesting to see how this is handled by NYPD.
Reports say the gunman used a 45 so unless NYPD uses the same, sould be easy enough.
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Something tells me they'll try to classify an 8 round mag as "high capacity".
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It appears that in the heat of the moment, the police shot 8 or 9 innocent bystanders while "shooting it out" with the gunman. The story is still developing, but it will be interesting to see how this is handled by NYPD.
I'm more interested in how the media will spin it to make guns look bad. 8 people wounded in police cross fire is not at acceptable, if that is indeed what happened.
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How do the investigators keep up with that much work load ???
They find some people who can't prove otherwise and pin several of the events on them.
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Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo indicated Wednesday that gun control will be on the table when lawmakers return in 2013.
His comments came about four weeks after a gunman opened fire in a Colorado movie theater, killing 12 and wounding 58.
ďI think there is appetite for reform and I think thatís a good thing and I think thatís one of the issues Iím going to have at the top of the list next January,Ē...
This incident will be used as an excuse to further gun control legislation in New York City.. as if it isn't as bad as it currently is..
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Article states the shooter had a 45 that could shoot 8 bullets, one was left in the gun. 3 were in the initial victim. Mayor says some of the nine bystanders "may have been shot by the policemen", who fired 14 times.
So if the shooter hit a bystander with each bullet unaccounted for that leaves five shot by police.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EMPIRE_STATE_BUILDING_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION= HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-24-11-49-15
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Article states the shooter had a 45 that could shoot 8 bullets, one was left in the gun. 3 were in the initial victim. Mayor says some of the nine bystanders "may have been shot by the policemen", who fired 14 times.
So if the shooter hit a bystander with each bullet unaccounted for that leaves five shot by police.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_EMPIRE_STATE_BUILDING_SHOOTING?SITE=AP&SECTION= HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-08-24-11-49-15
8 in the mag 1 in the pipe and a single .45 could hit more than 1 person. Or all the bistanders were shot by police ??????
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