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Old 02-12-2014, 07:52 PM   #11
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Every gang-banger wannabe punk with a gun in Chicago should get exactly the same treatment.
A bullet to the head.
What about the ammo shortage? There was a great meatpacking district up there at one time...


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Old 02-12-2014, 09:23 PM   #12
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And what does this have to do with the Open Carry debate? Why do some people try to twist everyting into something that fits their agenda?

Thug, gun, dead. End of story



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in illinoise, if the person being robbed wasnt a police officer off duty or not shoots crack mom's little snowflake that person would be facing murder charges for not letting the little snowflake steal his car or murder him...

cant be having one less welfare vote be put in the ground you know.

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But the flip-side is you may not have the confrontation in the first place. I'd rather avoid it but I will likely never open carry even though it is legal here in Va.
If you are referring to 'avoidance' in general your are correct.
But if you are referring to OC as a deterrent your believing in a myth.
Open carry does not stop a bandit intent on committing a crime, it only lets him know who is armed and when and how to neutralize that THREAT to himself. I support the RIGHT to OC but I know from experience it is not very smart or safe to openly carry a gun in public unless you are required to as a uniformed LEO or Security Officer.
I know there are those who think it is the 'right' thing to do (OC). I feel sorry for them and their family as you can't get them to use a little common sense and not OC.
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This isn't about oc vs ccw please discuss that in a different thread in the self defense ccw subforum. Either start a new thread there or dig up one of the older ones about the topic.

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here's an unmasked version from liveleak....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f6e_1392219642
wow how did that automatically embed?

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The whole thing went down in less than 10 seconds. And the cop did indeed draw smoothly and quickly, and fire the gun before the perp had time to realize what was about to happen. It makes it clear that to practice drawing THEN shooting is important, and not just standing still and poking holes in a target at 50 yards.

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Another observation: the cop remained situationally aware after shooting the primary threat. He moved toward cover. Returned to the assailant and got the gun out of reach. The threat did continue to move and reached toward the weapon. So even a contact distance head shot did not definitively end the threat.

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They just picked on the wrong person. He had a decision to make, let them rob him and hope they went away. Or take them on, not a position most would like to be in.

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Another observation: the cop remained situationally aware after shooting the primary threat. He moved toward cover. Returned to the assailant and got the gun out of reach. The threat did continue to move and reached toward the weapon. So even a contact distance head shot did not definitively end the threat.
All very good points, especially about the suspects ability to remain a threat even after mortally wounded.




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