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Old 11-13-2013, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default 4 CNN Liberals Walk into a Barů and Defend Gun Rights?

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One of the more interesting shows on television is Anthony Bourdain Parts Unknown on CNN. Sunday was the season finale, where host Bourdain traveled to Detroit to explore the food and culture. After the episode — “The Last Bite” — Bourdain gathered with friends in a Las Vegas bar to discuss the season, which included a segment filmed in New Mexico that featured “gun culture.” CNN host Don Lemon joined Bourdain, along with Roy Choi (author of L.A. Son) and actor Wendell Pierce. Bourdain, an avowed “New York lefty,” admitted that he likes guns and expressed his respect for American gun owners:
These people in the segment, as many people in red state America — in gun country America — these are nice people. They like guns. As a matter of fact, I’ve gotta admit, I like guns. I like holding guns. I like shooting guns.
He explained more in a blog post about the New Mexico episode:
In New York, where I live, the appearance of a gun—anywhere—is a cause for immediate and extreme alarm. Yet, in much of America, I have come to find, it’s perfectly normal. I’ve walked many times into bars in Missouri, Nevada, Texas, where absolutely everyone is packing. I’ve sat down many times to dinner in perfectly nice family homes where—at end of dinner—Mom swings open the gun locker and invites us all to step into the back yard and pot some beer cans. That may not be Piers Morgan’s idea of normal. It may not be yours. But that’s a facet of American life that’s unlikely to change.
Bourdain described author Roy Choi as a peace-loving leftist, recalling that his family had defended Koreatown during the ‘92 riots with semi-automatic guns and shotguns with no support from the city government or the police. He asked Choi if Americans should be able to get AR-15s easily...

It continues...for some time.
While Bourdain can't completely seem to hide his condescension, I will admit to being pleasantly surprised by him & his cohorts in this instance.
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Old 11-13-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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That would happen to a lot of anti-gun folks if they could actually communicate with some people who have guns as a significant part of their daily lives. Many of them have the attitude they have because the only exposure they have ever had to gun stuff is the sensationalistic bullcrap they see in the movies. If they'd ever visit some of the western or southern towns where everybody carries and may kill a snake occasionally, but nobody is "blowing away" any of their neighbors, they may take a different stance on the subject.

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Thanks for posting this, Greg! Very interesting, wish more antigun people would have experiences like that.

I liked Wendell Pierce from The Wire and Treme but figured him for a gun owner. Who knows, after that conversation maybe he soon will be.

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My experience with the hard core anti gun crowd is the nearly all of them did not have exposure to guns growing up and/or have not experienced a traumatic life-changing violent event that could have had a different outcome had the victim been able to defend themselves with a gun.

Left wing does not mean anti-gun necessarily but I can say that most of the anti gun crowd I know, do lean left....much fewer on the right are anti gun. And there is a difference between those who choose not to own guns vs. those who are anti-gun and want to disarm Americans.

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The sad reality I see here is that there are a lot of gun owners out there gullible enough to believe that a big city media personality is capable of being in the same county with a gun and not wetting himself. Or gullible enough to believe that such a media personality can honestly moderate his hatred of guns and gun owners and red staters and see the middle of the country for what it is like the article implies.
We can never lose sight of the fact that lefty media personalities are America hating progressives first and gun haters second and any attempt to put any trust in them or engage them in a moderate civil discussion will end poorly for us. We've seen this act before.
This is just turning the heat down on the frog in the pot a bit before he jumps out.

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The sad reality I see here is that there are a lot of gun owners out there gullible enough to believe that a big city media personality is capable of being in the same county with a gun and not wetting himself. Or gullible enough to believe that such a media personality can honestly moderate his hatred of guns and gun owners and red staters and see the middle of the country for what it is like the article implies.
We can never lose sight of the fact that lefty media personalities are America hating progressives first and gun haters second and any attempt to put any trust in them or engage them in a moderate civil discussion will end poorly for us. We've seen this act before.
This is just turning the heat down on the frog in the pot a bit before he jumps out.
It costs me nothing to read this and take it at face value. Even if it were to turn into total BS, I'm still out nothing, it's just more of the same from the usual suspects. However, if it's a true change of heart, then it's a positive thing.
True? False? Other? I have nothing at stake with Bourdain or his cronies either way. This is, whatever the case, noteworthy.
Truth be told, I feel that it's entirely possible that Bourdain is still the arrogant douche that he has always been.
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Thanks for sharing this Overkill.

What I get rom this is a sign of true progress, which usually does happen when folks that are on the left side of the fence come over and visit those on the right side. It is not usually enough to cause an epiphany, but it almost always will make them stop and think about their stand on an issue.

We as human beings see the world we are exposed to on a daily basis. If it is an inner city hell where kids are killing kids (gang on gang, not preschool) that is what we identify as the "use" of a particular item, I.E. Guns are bad, and must be banned.

If you take a person from that enviorment and put them into a section of the country where guns are used for hunting (primary means of feeding your family, or secondary to your garden) and HD\SD (protection when the nearest LEO may be 20 miles away) for any decent amount of time, a polar shift sometimes occurs. They see the other side of the coin, and some of them will try it on for size when they do. One of the men at that bar room table, Roy Choi, has been in the second situation before. The post Rodney King verdict riots where the LAPD cowered on the safe side of the city, and the Koreans had to protect their own without LE involvement.

I think these gentlemen are at the start of the right path, some are further along than the others, and are taking the next steps. They are coming to the point where beliefs become ideas. What is the difference? People go to war over beliefs, and ideas can be changed.

Am I as impressed as i would be if Piers Moron was also at the table agreeing with them? No. Do I call that little group of men talking politics over a couple of beers progress? I do. just my $0.02, YMMV.

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I've seen his episode of no reservations in my part of the world (Missouri Ozarks) and you can see him change his view on us simple folk

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How about this sense of discovery. "I have come to find". As if after touring France he "came to find" that people speak French. He is hard to watch for some reason, and I can't quite put my finger on it.

Anyway, a liberal in a true sense of the word would be pro-2A. Pro liberty. The language is so distorted with PC and the euphemisms, that liberal is now a label for people who do the least to deserve it. Like "mature adults". Every old guy is mature? Read this forum Only the commies and the national socialists are the true, control-seeking advocates of lesser freedom.

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It has taken a long time for people in NY to become scared of guns like today. I took four horses to Aqueduct in queens for a race 1978. I brought a gun because people who think nothing of shooting someone will tamper with the horses. I was taking care of the horses with a pistol in my tack box just like I would in Lafayette. One of the locals saw my pistol. He didn't freak out. He just said I need to hide my pistol better because they were illegal on the track. None of the local trainers had a gun in their office, unlike LA where every trainer had a shotgun in his office.

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