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Old 06-26-2012, 04:46 AM   #11
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This is an excellent write up! Thanks for posting this. Just wondering why you remove the bore brush when it exits the muzzle? I always thought it was ok to run the brush back through as long as you don't reverse the motion half way through the bore. Could it possibly ruin the rifling in the bore?

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This is an excellent write up! Thanks for posting this. Just wondering why you remove the bore brush when it exits the muzzle? I always thought it was ok to run the brush back through as long as you don't reverse the motion half way through the bore. Could it possibly ruin the rifling in the bore?
When you reverse the brush back down the bore, you are going against the lay of the lands and in all my rifled guns, I always clean in one direction; the same direction I want the bullet to travel.
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michigan0626 posted a couple questions about cleaning his new Colt's Rail Gun so I thought I'd post this "canebrake's 1911 platform pistol cleaning suggestions" for you guys to digest.

THIS IS NOT THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF 1911 CLEANING!

This is not a FireArmsTalk.com endorsed or condoned procedure. It is however, a process applied by this 66 year old gun totin', retired engineer and grumpy 'ole codger that has served him well. So no flaming posts please, just PM me with your suggestions/corrections and I will modify this guide.

Best advice, buy the highest quality cleaning supplies and tools you can afford!

Good cleaning tools are an investment and should have as much pre-purchase research as did your gun selection.

I've used them all and can save you the time and $$$ with my recommendations. (Just remember this is subjective and don't get yourself confused with the Chevy vs Ford thingie.)

Here are my minimum requirements for gun maintenance: (provided links are for visual reference, SHOP around!)

Hardware (get dedicated tools and keep them in a cleaning box marked 1911 Cleaning and don't mix them with your other gun/caliber equipment.)
[*]Cleaning rod (gun specific, you don't want a 23" 223 stalk AR rod for your 4" .44 Smith)
I like/use Dewey. Dewey 1-Piece Cleaning Rod - MidwayUSA[*]Bore Brush nylon or phosphor bronze (get both & several, they wear out) Iosso Eliminator Pistol Bore Brush 44, 45 Caliber 8 x 32 Thread Nylon - MidwayUSA and/or DOUBLE-TUFF BORE BRUSH - BROWNELLS[*]Bore Jag (get one) Dewey Pistol Cleaning Jag 44 to 45 Caliber 8 x 32 Thread Brass - MidwayUSA
I like these; O-RING CLEANING JAGS - BROWNELLS[*]Bore Mop(s) Hoppe's Pistol Cotton Bore Mop - MidwayUSA[*]Chamber Brush (this is NOT a bore brush and when you need one nothing else works! Be sure it's stainless steel.) Wilson Combat Chamber Cleaning Tool 45 ACP - MidwayUSA and/or CHAMBER BRUSH - BROWNELLS[*]Cleaning Brush(s) OTIS : ALL PURPOSE BRUSHES[*]Silicone gun and reel cloth Kleen-Bore Silicone Gun & Reel Cleaning Cloth - MidwayUSA


Consumables
[*]Solvent(s) Get the Hoppes #9
I like/use Hoppe's #9 Semi-Auto Bore Cleaning Solvent Hoppe's #9 Semi-Auto Bore Cleaning Solvent - MidwayUSA[*]Lube(s) (can't beat the default; Rem Oil)
I blend my own. Cane's "Mobil Mystery", 90% Mobil 1 / 10% Marvel Mystery.
+ [*]Patches (get caliber-specific size patches and DON'T mix them!)[*]Q-Tips (can't clean guns without them!)


For protection; I've just started to use this stuff, it looks promising.

Frog Lube

As a rule I do two types of 1911 cleaning;
[*]The "fast-but-necessary" post range trip buff
This consists of a field strip removing only the;
[*]mag[*]slide release[*]bushing[*]barrel[*]spring[*]guide rod


Using the Hoppe's #9 Semi-Auto Bore Cleaning Solvent I clean the barrel. breech face and any other carbon deposits I see with a brush. I continue the cleaning until my wipe cloth/patch returns clean.

Wipe down and inspect the mag, recoil spring, guide rod, plug and bushing.

I do a complete visual inspection of the moving parts looking for wear witness marks, cracks or galling.

I then LIGHTLY lube all areas with my Cane Mobil Mystery custom blend. (NOTE: Lube must be present but.....NOT dripping wet!)

Reassembly looking for a smooth build with no exceptions.

Wipe down the gun's surface with your silicon rag.
[*]The "Detailed Deep-Clean" scrub
Completely strip your 1911, everything except;
[*]Sights[*]Plunger tube (remove the spring & plungers)[*]Grip bushings[*]Ejector


While you have it in this most revealing condition, inspect everything.

[*]Get your soap and mix with hot water in the bucket. If really dirty use Brakleen.[*]Place the large parts (receiver, slide) in the bucket.[*]Place your small parts in a strainer and dip in the soapy water. [*]Scrub all parts until void of any lubricant.[*]Lay parts out on a clean shop towel and re-inspect everything. Look at the wear areas and for cracks or galling.


This is the time to visually inspect every part in detail..

Trigger Bow ^

Slide stop ^

Barrel ^

Using your compressed air, clean all the nooks and crannies. Use the q-tips to clean the extractor and firing pin channels.

If you find any trace of dirt/lube, draw more hot water, add the Dawn and re-do the scrub thingie. Or re-spray with Brakleen.

I then LIGHTLY lube all areas with my Cane Mobil Mystery custom blend. (NOTE: Lube must be present but.....NOT dripping wet!)
After a deep cleaning especially with Brakleen, use an aerosol lube like Rem oil, or as I do, get a olive oil spray bottle and fill it with my Cane Mobil Mystery custom blend. The spray allows you to get deep into the nooks and crannies to protect the bare surfaces.

Reassembly looking for a smooth build with no exceptions.

And most important, after a complete tear-down, dry fire the gun with a squib rod seated against the breech face. Insure the firing pin is working by rotating the muzzle to straight up, dry fire and look for the rod to jump when struck by the firing pin. Do this before you return the pistol to service. (Trust the old man on this one!)


Tips:
[*]Use only properly sized tools (if you don't have that .45 bore brush, get one!)[*]Clean your gun barrel in the same direction the bullet travels (on your gun, with the barrel removed, push the brush from breech to muzzle, remove the brush and pull the rod out, IOW, don't run it back-and-forth)[*]Use a fresh patch on each pass (patches are cheap, barrels are expensive)[*]DO NOT drag a dirty patch back through the "just cleaned" barrel[*]Disassemble your gun only to the level required to access areas where fouling reaches[*]Cleaning your gun requires a clean work area. The idea is to remove, not add dirt[*]When it comes to lube, lighter is better (pass a lightly lubed bore mop 2-3 times instead of a oil soaked and dripping mop once)[*]Lube needs to be present, not seen (visual) to work (see # 7 above)
Very nice, informative write up. Keep us posted on the froglube stuff. Where did you get the froglube at? And how often do you recommend tearing it all the way down?
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Cane, as always, You da man!

This should be a sticky, it will help the noobs & old dudes like me.

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Very nice, informative write up. Keep us posted on the froglube stuff. Where did you get the froglube at? And how often do you recommend tearing it all the way down?
I got mine at Botach Tactical (A great FTF Vendor) with free shipping. FrogLube

How often for a 1911 deep cleaning? When needed. (Short answer.)

Long answer; prior to any long-term storage, 6 months or 1K rounds down the pipe. Always post hunting, exposure to inclement weather or after a noob-goof like a drop in a mud puddle. (I guess if this was my suggestion for the glock, it would be after every use to hear them gasconade.)

Real answer; you, the owner will decide.

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Thanks Cane, I was just going to clean mine when I saw this post, thankfully I was not far off.

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I like this. Very well put
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I mixed up some( cane mobil mystery) last night before guving my 1911 a good cleaning. I sure do like the stuff, works great. Thanks cane

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