[nitestalker]

That gun has a base pin safety. It has two notches on the base pin. One notch is safe the gun will not function the other notch is fire. This is a "Swiss Safety".

[gr8oldguy]

Originally Posted by nitestalker

That gun has a base pin safety. It has two notches on the base pin. One notch is safe the gun will not function the other notch is fire. This is a "Swiss Safety".

It does indeed have two notches. I didn't know it had an official name, thanks for telling me that. I was aware of the function, however, that was not the problem. When the cylinder pin is pushed all the way in, the hammer is physically moved away from the gun. So it is very visual when the safety is on and the gun doesn't go bang.

[hiwall]

gr8oldguy
So you are saying that the ejector rod is always protruding like in your last pic?
It should not. Something is not letting it return all the way. Weak spring, or a burr in ejector channel or something.

[Bob Wright]

O.K. When you push the ejector rod head "down" the cam slot forces it rearward slightly, so the protrusion.

With the ejector rod head in its full forward position, the base pin should be held captive, that is, still retained in the gun's frame, but forward enough to clear the window opening in the frame and allow cylinder removal.

Is this not the casde?

Bob Wright

[gr8oldguy]

Originally Posted by Bob Wright

O.K. When you push the ejector rod head "down" the cam slot forces it rearward slightly, so the protrusion.

With the ejector rod head in its full forward position, the base pin should be held captive, that is, still retained in the gun's frame, but forward enough to clear the window opening in the frame and allow cylinder removal.

Is this not the casde?

Bob Wright

The problem is with the design of the gun. The cylinder pin can't be removed unless you move the shell extractor rod knob down and out of the way of the cylinder pin. This is the move that requires an extra hand, because you have to pull the extract rod knob down while making sure you have a cylinder chamber to accept the slight intrusion of the extractor rod, while depressing the cylinder pin release knob. The instruction do not cover any of this. I think the gun was built wrong from the factory.

[Bob Wright]

Well, seems to me the obvious thing to do is remove the ejector assembly when removing the cylinder. Just one screw needs to be removed to do that. Then cylinder removal would be easy. You could probably find a base pin without the Swiss Safe feature to cure that problem. Or have your gunsmith shorten the base pin.

Built wrong? No. Poor design, maybe.

Bob Wright

[gr8oldguy]

Originally Posted by Bob Wright

Well, seems to me the obvious thing to do is remove the ejector assembly when removing the cylinder. Just one screw needs to be removed to do that. Then cylinder removal would be easy. You could probably find a base pin without the Swiss Safe feature to cure that problem. Or have your gunsmith shorten the base pin.

Built wrong? No. Poor design, maybe.

Bob Wright

You're right. Poor design. I do love the revolver. I was just learning process figuring out that best way to break it down. To shorten the base pin enough to give it enough room to come out without moving the shell extractor rod, would cause the pin to be too short. I can live with it now that I have learned my hard lesson.

[towboater]

It shouldn't be too short. Push it all the way in. measure or mark the part that sticks out. Cut it, and sand its edge.