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Old 05-18-2013, 09:01 PM   #21
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Also(if you can find it-because they don't Make DA wheel guns anymore) Colt made a version of the Diamondback in .22magnum/.22LR with no extra cyl. needed. I had one long Ago(the 80's) but when Wife#1 & I Split i needed $$ not just for the divorce but to help my Mom & kid Brothers out after Dad Died(9 weeks after #1 and I split). Mine was a 4"er and looked like the baby brother to My 6" Python...

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I do a lot of hiking in the AZ desert and while I have seen snakes, I have not had to kill any. Most will try to get away from you since you are too big to eat and are perceived as a threat. Luckily I have not run into a Mojave Green rattler. They are known to be aggressive. I usually carry my J frame 38spl with 1 round of snake shot and 4 rounds of +P varmint loads. 22lr shot loads are pretty weak.

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I lost my best friend "Kell" a Gordon Setter as the results of a Mojave Green bite. They are very aggressive and will attack anything in their territory. I would like to see an animal rights person handle one of these deadly creatures.

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JPatterson - couldn't agree more about conversion pistols and Ruger has learned that lesson w their new 10 and 9 shot version.

I spent a lot of time in the deserts of AZ. I carried Ruger MK I -22 auto and Rugers .44 for ML. But when traveling light, I carried a 22 MAG derringer w snake shot in top barrel & HP in the bottom.

I was never very impressed w snake shots performance. Before you buy, I highly advise you shoot it first w ammo of your choice before buying. Pattern testing at various ranges is the best way to gauge performance.

2 legged Varmits are the biggest problem in AZ desert. Mojave's are small, short-tempered & very fast.

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I'm not sure where you're getting your information. Some snakes, rattlers come to mind, will attack just because you accidentally get too close. Either to them or their nests.

We CCW to protect ourselves from the threat of a human attacker, primarily. If you're doing something where snakes are your biggest fear why wouldn't you carry and possibly kill one for defense?

Snakes and humans should coexist? Humans and humans should too. But sometimes you have to defend yourself.

If you're ok with the possibility of killing a person in defense but not a snake, then your argument holds no water with me. You're essentially putting snakes on a higher level than humans?

Makes perfect sense.....
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MOST snakes will get AWAY from you as fast as they can- IF its a Rattler a pissy 22 shotshell will just piss it off unless you stick the barrel down its throat--If you feel the need for shotshells go at least 38--44 is better-
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As far as a packable .22 revolver, I recommend the Heritage Arms Rough Rider. They are inexpensive, $190 - $225 range, Single action, and at the top of that price range, you can buy one with the extra .22 mag cylinder.

I haven't had mine long, but so far it's been a fine little gun. We've discussed this gun before and those that have actually owned one for several years, love them.
I second the 22 combo, the 6 1/2" barrel is nice.
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Also(if you can find it-because they don't Make DA wheel guns anymore) Colt made a version of the Diamondback in .22magnum/.22LR with no extra cyl. needed. I had one long Ago(the 80's) but when Wife#1 & I Split i needed $$ not just for the divorce but to help my Mom & kid Brothers out after Dad Died(9 weeks after #1 and I split). Mine was a 4"er and looked like the baby brother to My 6" Python...

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No secondary cylinder? How did they overcome the cartridges case dimension differences?
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I have only encountered one rattler that I had to shoot in over 40 years of hiking in California, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, and Colorado. I was on a hike with my cousin on a narrow path along the side of a steep mountain. We encountered a rattler, which coiled and was about to strike. My cousin was in the lead, he froze, and was only 4 feet from the snake. I took a shot with a .357 loaded with a shot shell. Hit the rattler, it was distracted enough that I got a second shot off as he pulled his head back to begin to strike - the 110gr JHP took is head off. There were a number of small punctures on the body and head of the snake. It took a solid to stop him. I do not depend upon shot shells in a barrel shorter than 6 inches in a .357/.38 or 4 inches in a .44 spl/mag. A 22LR or Mag? No thanks - I would rely on solids and hone my shooting skills.
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I saw a .22LR with rat shot kill a garden hose before.

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No secondary cylinder? How did they overcome the cartridges case dimension differences?
Cyl. insert for the .22LR
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