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Old 01-24-2011, 05:34 AM   #11
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Maybe!

I was kinda half joking, but I do imagine that the population in and`around the Smith and Wesson family, or any highly crafted production Co., doesn't forget much when it comes to another company competing against you with your own design. . . .

Hmmmmm. . . . maybe I will get a "Governor"

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Old 01-24-2011, 06:02 AM   #12
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I plan on getting one ASAP if I can find an FFL that will do a LE transfer.

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Just for my understanding: The Judge/Governor is legal because it is a 45 cal revolver that is capable of firing a .410 shot shell.

A 12 GA only with be a pistol grip Short barrel shotgun, right?



Along those lines, if Smith & wesson invented a .72 or .73 caliber round for the 12 GA Governor could they market a new .72 or .73 cal revolver that just happens to be capable of firing 12 GA shells?





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How exactly does Taurus build knock-offs using tooling provided to them by the manufacturers in question? The S&W tooling came from them when they partnered with Taurus to begin manufacturing S&W's there, but later backed out of the deal. Same for Beretta.
If I buy a GM plant and begin producing cars with the tooling I bought, are those cars knock-offs? They are built to the same standards as when GM built them.

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How exactly does Taurus build knock-offs using tooling provided to them by the manufacturers in question? The S&W tooling came from them when they partnered with Taurus to begin manufacturing S&W's there, but later backed out of the deal. If I buy a GM plant and begin producing cars with the tooling I bought, are those cars knock-offs?
Yes, they are knock-offs. Same tooling doesn't = same product. Since there's about a thousand other factors that go into the manufacturing (material quality and skilled craftsman come to mind just a bit. ) of a specific product, there's no way they could ever be the same.

I'm not saying that "knock-offs" are necessarily bad. Ruger pulled a historically mysterious move in the production of the .44 Magnum. Smith and Wesson (Elmer Keith) already had a prototype of the model 29 and had been developing cartridges of .44 magnum power/pressures for years (time-lines often conflict) before Bill Ruger had begun experimentation, yet Ruger managed to release the first .44 magnum pistol available to consumers.

Was that a knock-off. Some say no, I say YES.

You ever want some great reading check out "Sixguns" by Elmer Keith. Awesome history book.
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Obviously Ruger got some ammo from Remington to play with. Had to be to Remington's financial advantage to have more firearms to fire their new cartridge.

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