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Old 09-29-2012, 01:41 AM   #1
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Hi folks. Newbie to the site and hoping to have some questions answered. I'm looking at buying a Smith and Wesson 38 S&W special us service ctg's pistol from a friend that says his great grandfather rode with Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider. S/n is 340xx. Any help determining the year and value of this would be greatly appreciated. Some minor scratches, light surface rust which i think could be polished out, no pitting, minor wear of the bluing from probably the leather holster. Thanks

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Old 09-29-2012, 04:39 PM   #2
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my guess is it looks to be an m&p hand ejecter of 1902, 2nd change, made around 1904

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I think Coonbait nailed it. Your revolver is the granddaddy of the S&W Military & Police Special, later to become the Model 10, and in turn an ancestor of the various magnum revolvers that used a size K frame. The round butt was the only option until 1904, when a square butt became available. Would not use +P or other high energy golly gee whiz ammo thru it- it was designed for the standard .38 Special, but should do just fine with any of the standard 38 Specials- and is probably a tack driving gun.

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The S&W MP was designed in 1898 but was not on the market until 1899. It was made famous when used in the then new .38 Spec. Ctg. The .38 Spec was better than the old .38 S&W in fighting the Moro tribesman. But in the end it took the .45 to go thru the Moro shields and stop them.

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Awesome guys, thanks. So I would shoot regular 38 special non +P ammo? Also from the pictures and the description, can anyone give me a fair worth on the gun?

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Also, considering age and condition I would recommend that you DO NOT buff out any minor scratches. If it is original without having been refinished then it will be worth more in original condition to reflect how well it was actually maintained.

I've seen old revolvers, 1911s, and Lugers that would have been worth thousands reduced to shooter grade guns in the low to mid hundreds because someone thought they would look nicer refinished.

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Awesome guys, thanks. So I would shoot regular 38 special non +P ammo? Also from the pictures and the description, can anyone give me a fair worth on the gun?
Non +p is fine. S&W didn't start heat treating cylinders until the late 30's or early 40's IIRC.
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I sold one last month about the same condition for $225 dollars.

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Awesome guys, thanks. So I would shoot regular 38 special non +P ammo? Also from the pictures and the description, can anyone give me a fair worth on the gun?
Non +p would be fine. But with a gun that old, I would respect it's age a bit more and shoot low pressure target wadcutters. Just MHO.
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It appears to be a .38 Military & Police Model of 1902 - 1st Change

Manufactured in 1903/04 a total of 28,645 were produced with the serial number range of 33804 - 62448.

With your S/N my money is on a 1903 build.

Book value
98% $1,475
95% $1,275
90% $1,150
80% $900
70% $775
60% $650
50% $525
40% $400
30% $300
20% $250
10% $200

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