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Old 02-22-2012, 10:22 PM   #51
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If it was me, and money was a consideration, I would go with the Ruger. If money is no object I would still go with the Ruger and take it to a reputable gunsmith for a trigger and spring job. Those Rugers are practically indestructible. Yes, I own a lot of S&W handguns, but none of the newer ones. Smith seems to be cutting some corners, and I am not as impressed with them as I once was.

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If it was me, and money was a consideration, I would go with the Ruger. If money is no object I would still go with the Ruger and take it to a reputable gunsmith for a trigger and spring job. Those Rugers are practically indestructible. Yes, I own a lot of S&W handguns, but none of the newer ones. Smith seems to be cutting some corners, and I am not as impressed with them as I once was.
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What's up with newer S&W's?
The newest I own is a .22 mag Mdl. 651 Target 1st model made in the '80's. It may not be older than the Mdl. 638 Airweight Bodyguard .38 Spl. These two seem in the quality range of my late 60' to (well) mid-80's Smiths. I did get a hone job and some lighter springs in the .38. The only trouble with the .22 mag. is that it's so tight that the inefficient powder burn fouls the cylinder rotation.
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I am interested in buying a .357mag with a 4 inch barrel. I can't decide whether I want a S&W 686 or a Ruger GP100. The price difference at my local gun shop is about $200, with the Ruger being the less expensive of the two. Is it worth the extra $200 for the S&W, or am I paying for the name? What would be the pros and cons of the two? And is there another .357 that I should be considering?

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The Ruger would make a tank of a .357 revolver. The S&W Mdl. 27 or 28-if they're still made in some incantation should be a nice solid frame .357. The Mdl. 19 ( Dear to my heart and taking up too much shelving and $$ in my safe) will shoot loose quicker than should be. But , a vintage 19 makes a great accurate, easily shootable, pretty concealable revolver.

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The newer ones are using MIM for some of the parts. That stands for Metal Injection Molding, and it is used instead of milling the parts. It's much cheaper to produce small parts this way, but the MIM parts are often more prone to stress breakage. They also can't be made to the same tolerance as machined parts and should be sent through a second process to slim and smooth them down to specifications.

I've done some work on a couple MIM Smiths lately. One of the things I noticed on them is that the MIM parts have round depressions in them from the point(s) where the metal powder was injected into the mold. To see this in real life, grab a plastic toy or a plastic kitchen utensil. Somewhere on there you will see a round depression about the size of a pencil, and a "flash" of extra plastic around the hole. This is what I found on the rebound spring block in the two Smiths. It was very rough, and definitely affected the trigger pull. I was able to smooth the roughness out quickly, but I still felt some roughness in the trigger pull. I turned out that pieces of this metal flash had broken off and wandered throughout the lock work. Easily cleaned if you know what you are doing, but the average shooter may not know how.

The MIM pieces also seem to be considerably lighter than their steel counterparts. I wonder about service life. Sure, lighter is great when you are carrying, but at that price point I also want something that is going to last. To have a gun I can hand down to my heirs after I get done with it would be a good thing. I know my 19's, 36's and 66 will make it, but I'm not sure a revolver with MIM parts would considering the amount of time I spend shooting.

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Gp100 all the way had mine covers in pond slime from mudding and it still shot flawlessly.

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I have a 586 like the one in my avatar. Ruger builds a great gun. I have nothing bad to say about them. But a Smith & Wesson is revolver is like a work of art. I think they are just beautiful.

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I have a 586 like the one in my avatar. Ruger builds a great gun. I have nothing bad to say about them. But a Smith & Wesson is revolver is like a work of art. I think they are just beautiful.
My mom has one just like it too, I took my CCW class with it.
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Ruger GP 100...built like a tank.

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I like them both and as far as the S&W ILS, remove it, it takes 15
minutes or so.

6" Ruger GP100



4" S&W 686

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Ruger GP 100...built like a tank.
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