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Old 01-10-2012, 03:35 PM   #21
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Not really sure what you're talking about with the jury and trying to convince them I know more than the designers
I personally would never remove mine, my Ruger MKIII, Bersa, Beretta PX4 Storm and S&W model 629 all have the hole and don’t care one way or the other it really doesn’t bother me, but it seems to really!!! bother the S&W connoisseurs or aficionados there are countless threads on the S&W forums about it… they in general really hate that hole. I guess I would rather not have it but it’s there so whatayagonnado. In fact all my newer pistols except my 1911’s have it.
There are authorities on the use of firearms in self-defense who caution that altering a gun in any of several ways could be used against the gun owner in court following a shooting that involved that gun. Removing/disabling the lock is one, removing the device that keeps some semi-autos from firing unless a magazine is inserted is another, and installing a lighter trigger connector in Glocks is another. I'm sure there are more.

The argument is that if you did any of these things, it constitutes removing a safety measure, thereby making it easier to shoot someone. The attorney will try to argue that it showed intent on your part to kill someone, or made it more likely that you pulled the trigger when you didn't really mean to, which would still put you at fault.
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My recommendation would be to find a nice, older S&W 686. Quality has gone down from the older guns to the new S&W revolvers. 686s are common guns, so you shouldn't have any problems finding one. Check on the various classifieds sections on forums as well. I'd much rather have a nice older S&W than the new ones they are selling now.
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FYI: For less than $20 and a little time one can turn out a sweet shooting Ruger revolver.

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Yes, but i like to buy more than one box of ammo at a time for my GP100.
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686 all day..But the Ruger is still a strong choice.

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Yesterday I went to the range and was comparing my fathers S&W to his Ruger GP100. The problem is, the S&W was a .44mag, I did feel the difference in the trigger, but only in double action. Is the trigger on the S&W .44 the same as the .357(686)?.....I don't have a 686 to compare to

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Yesterday I went to the range and was comparing my fathers S&W to his Ruger GP100. The problem is, the S&W was a .44mag, I did feel the difference in the trigger, but only in double action. Is the trigger on the S&W .44 the same as the .357(686)?.....I don't have a 686 to compare to
I own a 586 (blued version of the 686) and have fired a Model 29. The triggers, as near as I remember were the same. I've also fired a number of Rugers. In my experience, the triggers on S&Ws have always been smoother.
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I owned both the GP100 and a Vintage S&W 681 (same a 686 but differnt sights)

When I found myself needing to part with a 4" .357 to make space for a new toy, it was the GP100 i decided to part with.

Both were very nice guns, but to me, the SW felt better in my hands, and shot very nicely. In additon, at least on my versions, the SW had better overall fit and finish.

Both are great choices and either will make a great HD gun, but for me, it was an easy choice to keep the S&W

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I am interested in buying a .357mag with a 4 inch barrel. I can't decide whether I want a S&W 686 or a Ruger GP100. The price difference at my local gun shop is about $200, with the Ruger being the less expensive of the two. Is it worth the extra $200 for the S&W, or am I paying for the name? What would be the pros and cons of the two? And is there another .357 that I should be considering?

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I have a s&w 686 nightgaurd it's the snub nose and I love it. Shoots great, first time I shot I went to the local indoor range and there was about 8 or 9 others there but shooting .22 to 9mm when I broke out that .357 everybody stopped to see what "that loud boom" was. And when you pull that trigger a huge smile goes to your face. Have had absolutely no issues with it fires the same every time out. That's my 2 cents

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