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Old 02-04-2013, 10:36 PM   #11
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These days the 640 is only .357mag and has the 2.25" barrel. I didn't realize there was a 1.875" 38spl version.

To anyone who knows... Is this when the 642 was designed? The current 642 sounds like the old 640 you have (except for the +p+ part).
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Thanks for the welcome. Haven't heard back from S&W yet. I'm 75 and don't get around as much anymore, but there have been shootings all around the quiet senior apartments where I live. The 640 isn't a backup, it's my ECW, and I have a lot of confidence in it with Remington +P LSWCHP ammo (and a couple of Speed Strips) as up-close-and-personal defense.
I am in LE (30+ years) and the 640 was used as a 'back up' for my duty weapon and some off duty carry.
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You and lots of other LEO's, apparently. Fine choice! Though I carry mine in a front-pocket holster, I don't mind the weight at all. My hands are pretty much eaten up with arthritis, and the extra heft makes the gun less painful to shoot with +P. A nice smooth professional trigger job helps too.
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I also had one of these 1st-run 640s back in the day and, yes, it was laser-etched "+P+". What made it strong enough to handle the hi-pressure loads was AND is the way it's machined internally, as I understand it, meaning no weakening of the frame to allow for an exposed hammer. As far as I know, it's still as strong as it ever was, S&W decided to not pup the +P+ on later runs cause, wouldn't you know it, guys were trying to turn them into .357s & blowin em up. jd45
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BTW, I run the Speer .38SPL+P short barrel 135gr ammo in mine. I get between 880FPS & 905FPS from my 1-7/8" barrel. Kicks hard tho, even with the lighter weight bullet and lots of flash. jd45
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Thanks for the info about how they made these, jd. I had wondered if it was something like that or the metallurgy.

That's the first I'd heard about the flash of the Speer round, and it probably means I'll stick with the lead SWCHP stuff. Even when my hands could deal with magnum recoil I didn't like the idea of carrying a .357 after dark because of concern about being blinded temporarily by the godawful fireball of the first shot. I've learned since that they have reduced that a good deal with flash retardants in the powder, but now my arthritis is too bad to shoot the magnums.

Anyway, elderly eyes readjust much more slowly after a sudden flash.

Nice velocity on that new ammo, though.
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