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CaseyChadwell 08-21-2011 01:32 PM

other revolving carbines
 
Ok...With the Judge Carbine out there and doing well from what i understand I was wondering if you all seen other revolving carbines in the future? I was thinking it would be pretty cool to have a 500 S&W or a 460 S&W carbine...What do you all think?

c3shooter 08-21-2011 02:10 PM

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Well, for what it's worth, they were around for a while in the 60s. The 1860s. Looked like this-

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Problem they had was the cylinder flash- which the Judge uses a shield to protect your weak arm from- and with black powder, limits of the energy. There WAS a nifty little carbine called the LeMat- upper barrel pistol bullets, lower barrel shotgun.

Revolving carbines are like dogs that play poker- they do not have to play poker WELL- it's just that they play poker at all.

I have a .410 shotgun- a Remington 1100. And I have a .45 revolver. Can't see that a revolving carbine for either would fill a screaming need in the gun world.

A lever action .500 could be interesting- for the states that permit only "pistol caliber" rifles for deer hunting, or states that do not permit autoloaders.

Hawg 08-21-2011 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 567249)
There WAS a nifty little carbine called the LeMat- upper barrel pistol bullets, lower barrel shotgun.

Talk about rare. The pistols are pretty common but there's only 14 known LeMat carbines. That's almost as rare as the Confederate Schneider and Glassic revolver.

WDB 08-22-2011 12:33 AM

Rossi is selling several styles, never seen one in person.

c3shooter 08-22-2011 03:15 AM

If you are ever in Richmond VA, there is an ORIGINAL LeMat carbine on display at the Battle Abbey (well worth the visit- same block as the VA Museum of Fine Art) They also have THE only copy of the Pacificator carbine. Sort of a pepperbox revolving carbine.

armoredman 08-22-2011 04:53 AM

There is a revolving 22 mag carbine coming in right now through CzechpointUSA. Now if I can get them to import the 357 mag version...
http://www.czechpoint-usa.com/products/revolvers/other/hunter-revolver-carbine/

unclebear 08-22-2011 05:14 AM

I agree I've always wanted a lever action in 500 S&W, I think it would make a scary home defense round.

Hawg 08-22-2011 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 567655)
If you are ever in Richmond VA, there is an ORIGINAL LeMat carbine on display at the Battle Abbey (well worth the visit- same block as the VA Museum of Fine Art) They also have THE only copy of the Pacificator carbine. Sort of a pepperbox revolving carbine.

Cool!:cool: I'd like to see that.

ninjatoth 08-22-2011 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by unclebear (Post 567714)
I agree I've always wanted a lever action in 500 S&W, I think it would make a scary home defense round.

and being a rifle they could make it 26" overall and a 16" barrel,be a nicd HD gun;)

Lindenwood 08-23-2011 02:58 AM

I think the ability to empty a cylinder of buckshot as fast as you can pull the trigger has its place. I mean, each shot is like getting hit 5 times with an M9. And, with a speedloader it could be reloaded faster from empty than a tube-fed weapon could.

I'd probably buy one if they could shoot .454casull. I could see the versatility of using the 5x000 buck loads for close range, and then swapping in a cylinder of .454Cas and effectively reaching out to 200-250 yards. But, being limited to standard-pressure .45Colt really limits its usefulness for me.

The limited reviews I've found show them as being very accurate for what they are. It sounds like 2-3MOA isn't out of the question, really.

So, an essentially-"semi-auto," light-weight long gun that can shoot and chamber any .410 shotgun shell (and the .410 loads are getting more and more effective each year, especially decent-length barrels), and then be loaded with any variety of powerful handgun loads**, would be extremely versatile. You'd have almost the power of something like a low-capacity semi-auto .308 (admittedly, without the hard-target penetration capabilities), but with the versatility of a revolver AND a shotgun.

Now, this is all hypothetical considering they can't even handle +P .45Colt, let alone .454 Casull. However, even still, if I were in the market for a .45-colt long gun and wasn't looking for longer-range hotrod loads, I'd probably pick up a Circuit Judge over a Marlin. Even without the option of .410, I'd like the versatility it allowed in shell length, and I'd like the fast reloads and ability to shoot effectively semi-auto.


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I would like to add that it would be AWESOME to have one with the barrel chopped to the forend, and topped with an Aimpoint. It would be super-compact while remaining effective, and of course a good red-dot is unmatched in target acquisition.


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