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Nake48 08-24-2010 05:07 PM

Older revolvers.
 
9mm revolvers, and break open revolvers, I know they did exist at one point in time. The break opens if any are still made are all models of something fairly old. My question is, how much would either one cost? What were the problems with break-open style revolvers, and 9mm revolvers? There aren't any in shops, I am assuming there is a problem with them or their usage is not comparable to today's standards of other rounds. This would be for collection only, I don't ever plan to shoot something like this, if there are so many problems.

danf_fl 08-24-2010 05:35 PM

The "break opens" were not strong enough as the development of gunpowder went forward. That is when they experiment with the top strap revolver we see today.

On the 9mm, yes, there were some made, but the 9mm was designed originally for a semi-auto. The interest of having a 9mm revolver was not enough to continue manufacture.

Some "break tops" have come back and are mainly geared towards the Single Action Shooters Society and their competitions. Some will become part of private collections, but the same reason for their demise is still there. They are limited on the pressure that can be taken by the handgun overall. The weak part is the clasp that keeps the cylinder in line with the hammer.

NGIB 08-24-2010 05:35 PM

The problem with break top revolvers has always been strength. The action just wouldn't stand up to today's magnum loads without being huge. I think Uberti makes a S&W Schofield replica. As for 9mm revolvers - why? Ruger made some but I suspect it was a tiny market and not profitable.

Use Gunbroker to check prices (completed auctions)...

danf_fl 08-24-2010 10:05 PM

who sez that great mind don't think alike. Both answers at 12:35

steve666 08-25-2010 11:43 AM

I have a Beretta Laramie .45 which is a copy of the S&W Model 3 top break. The manual specifically says not to use +P ammo because of the lack of frame strength. Otherwise it is a terrific shooting revolver. The 9mm is a rimless cartridge so one of the problems was that you either had to use moon clips or have it head space on the case mouth, too much trouble for a revolver in a caliber that is little better than a good .38 Special.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/medi...mie_Nickel.jpg

NGIB 08-25-2010 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve666 (Post 338026)
I have a Beretta Laramie .45 which is a copy of the S&W Model 3 top break. The manual specifically says not to use +P ammo because of the lack of frame strength. Otherwise it is a terrific shooting revolver. The 9mm is a rimless cartridge so one of the problems was that you either had to use moon clips or have it head space on the case mouth, too much trouble for a revolver in a caliber that is little better than a good .38 Special.
http://www.impactguns.com/store/medi...mie_Nickel.jpg

That is a really pretty revolver you have there!

spittinfire 08-25-2010 12:37 PM

Not trying to hijack a thread but I don't understand the interst in 9mm revolvers or 45acp revolvers for that matter. I like revolvers, don't get me wrong but the 9mm doesn't do near enough for me to want it in a revolver. The 45 does more for me personally but again, don't see the point. 357 and 44 seem to fill both voids.

NGIB 08-25-2010 12:41 PM

I'd like to have a .45 ACP revolver again as I have lots of ammo and they are a hoot to shoot. At one time I had a pair of S&W 625s (3 & 5 inch) and traded them away - I do stupid things sometimes...

Nake48 08-25-2010 01:12 PM

That revolver is really nice. I was more specifically looking for a break-top for .45 colt. I know finding these things because of the lack of strength from these older and outdated guns wasn't very helpful for their use maybe in cowboy days, but I am not sure. I will check gun broker to see if anyone has something for sale. I haven't found any price for these yet; I'll look probably a bit later when work is slowed down.

robocop10mm 08-25-2010 01:49 PM

Uberti makes several versions in modern calibers.

Uberti Top Break: No. 3 New Model Russian, No. 3 2nd Model

New Model Russian in .45 Colt.


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