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Old 10-31-2012, 03:57 AM   #1
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I just inherited a Colt New Service in .45 Colt. I can tell its been fired because the barrel and cylinder are pretty gun powdery. So obviously I need to give it a good cleaning. But when I dry fire it (I know, I know! I can't help it!) the trigger needs a little push to reset. Could this be caused by grime in the trigger mechanism?

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Old 10-31-2012, 04:10 AM   #2
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Grime, grit, carbon, dried lube, peanut butter sandwich remains- or a spring is broken or weak.

Use a liberal dose of spray Gunscrubber (outdoors, wear safety glasses) a drop or two of light oil, and see if that fixes it.



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You have a real fine handgun. The US Army M1909, USMC M1909 and the USNM1909. This gun was also issued to the RCMP Colt made 150,000 of these before 1940. This revolver caused a change in the rim design of the .45 Colt Army Ctg. of 1873. The larger rim was added to the .45 Colt to aid the 1909 ejectors. Today an original Colt .45 Ctg. is very rare.

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Grime, grit, carbon, dried lube, penaut butter sandwich remains- or a spring is broken or weak.

Use a liberal dose of spray Gunscrubber (outdoors, wear safety glasses) a drop or two of light oil, and see if that fixes it.
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You have a real fine handgun. The US Army M1909, USMC M1909 and the USNM1909. This gun was also issued to the RCMP Colt made 150,000 of these before 1940. This revolver caused a change in the rim design of the .45 Colt Army Ctg. of 1873. The larger rim was added to the .45 Colt to aid the 1909 ejectors. Today an original Colt .45 Ctg. is very rare.
Thanks for the compliment! This revolver has been babied for over 100 years so its been kept real nice!
It is one of the 1st 50,000 of them made too.
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nitestalker,

Thank you for the opportunity to show off some of my cartridges. The cartridge on the left is the "original" Army .45 Colt cartridge.



As to the .45 M1909 round, here are two examples. Note the one on the right is dated December of 1913:



Ya'll probably already know this, but six rounds of M1909 cartridges cannot be loaded in a Colt Single Action's cylinder, nor the 1878 rod ejector double action (M1902) as the rims overlap. Only the New Service can load six:





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Damn I must say as a very old gun collector I am impressed. Not only is that an incredeble Colt but the Ctgs. Wow. You just made my point in that the .45 Colt Ctg. 1873 under went a number of changes. The last was the rim change for the M1909. Is that by chance a USMC M1909?

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Damn I must say as a very old gun collector I am impressed................ The last was the rim change for the M1909. Is that by chance a USMC M1909?
The cartridge? Its a M1909 from Frankford Arsenal. The cartridge was the same for the Army Model and the Marine Corps model. The difference was in the grip, the USMC having a smaller grip for.........

Nah, won't say it. Some of my best friends were Marines as were family members.

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As to the best of my recollection, the trigger is "reset" by the rebound lever, which in turn is activated by the lower leaf of the "V" type mainspring. Try a little lubricant here. The mainspring may need replacing.

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Nice ammo collection, Bob. I too have some original cartridges for the gun with the original box. I'll post 'em when I get home tonight.



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