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Zombiepirate 03-25-2013 01:15 AM

Navy Arms co .36 cal b/p
 
Hay U guy's
I just picked up a .36 cal black powder revolver It says navy arms co Ridgefield NJ Italy it has a brass frame with a crest with a U in it on the left side also has cal,36 abouve the wedge pin on the right side it has 2 crests on the brass frame one looks like 2 cannons in a square With a small round star abouve it then a PN with a little larger star abouv it and roman #'s xxv the same small crest with a small star and PN are also on the barrel side plate on the right side. I cant seem to find any info on this revolver, Can anyone Help me ?




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c3shooter 03-25-2013 03:54 AM

Well, Navy Arms imported modern day manufactured black powder guns from Italy. Many of the marks you have described are proof marks- required in Europe to show that a gun was test fired by the government testing house (and passed the test)

Unfortunately, they are no more. A brief blip of info for ya- http://www.navyarms.com/

Guns were OK shooters. Not originals, but not real pricey reproductions. What did you want to know?

EDIT- if you need instructions, here is the manual for an Uberti black powder revolver- http://stevespages.com/pdf/uberti_black_powder_revolver.pdf

Zombiepirate 03-25-2013 10:31 AM

C3 Shooter
Thank you very much, I am looking at buying this gun and wanted to know if it was a reproduction now I know. It is in very good shape, Been very well cared for has it's original patina never been polished just cleaned and oiled How about a ballpark figure on it's worth ? don't want to pay to much ya know;)


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mdauben 03-25-2013 11:43 AM

When you say "brass frame" do you mean the trigger guard and grip frame, or the whole frame around the cylinder? Some people like the look, but the latter is generally considered less desirable. It is not historically correct and is somewhat weaker than a steel framed gun.

That said, you can buy a brand new 1851 Navy reproduction for $200-350 depending on the quality. If its in excellent condition I probably would not spend more that $200 on it, tops. Reproductions like this don't really have any collectors value, it's just a used gun.

c3shooter 03-25-2013 11:57 AM

Yep. And the strongest indicator that it is a repro is the term "black powder" on the gun. When the originals were made, there was no NEED to mark them, there WAS no other powder!

towboater 03-25-2013 01:23 PM

I'd say $125 - $150. The Cabelas link is a 44. but the 36 should be worth about the same.
www.cabelas.com/product/Home/Pietta-Revolvers%7C/pc/105625080/c/112132080/Pietta-Model-1851-Confederate-Navy-44-Caliber-Revolver/740536.uts?destination=%2Fbrowse.cmd%3FcategoryId% 3D112132080%26WTz_l%3DSBC%253Bcat104792580%253Bcat 104701680&WTz_l=SBC%3Bcat104792580%3Bcat104701680% 3Bcat112132080

Zombiepirate 03-25-2013 10:55 PM

Mdauben
The whole frame around the cylinder is brass and C3 Shooter this gun does not say any place on the revolver "black powder" ??

HOSSFLY 03-26-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zombiepirate (Post 1190370)
Mdauben
The whole frame around the cylinder is brass and C3 Shooter this gun does not say any place on the revolver "black powder" ??

The brass frame is OK to shoot - just don't want to do any type of "cartridge conversion" to it-

Zombiepirate 03-26-2013 11:28 PM

Hossfly
Nope no conversions!! I would like to find some #10 primer's, Not sure if it is the wrong time of year here in Maine or if it's all the anti gun crap but ya cant buy anything here right now. I also have a .50 cal side-lock rifle but can not find #11's either. How is a man supposed to shoot?

Hawg 03-26-2013 11:53 PM

The U if its in an octagon is Uberti's trademark. It has to be an older one if its a brass frame Uberti. Keep loads around 15 grains to keep from battering and stretching the frame. On the right side of the frame should be a set of Roman numerals or two letters in a box. That would be the date code for when it was proofed. http://www.powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf


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