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lilrichthedragon 06-26-2012 03:11 AM

nagant revolver
 
looking at a russian revolver wanted some opinions about it.

kytowboater 06-26-2012 03:12 AM

Texaswoodworker is the man to talk to about them.

c3shooter 06-26-2012 03:28 AM

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wanted some opinions about it.
Well, ugly as a mud fence. Most have a trigger pull similar to starting a Model T with a hand crank. Interesting design, inexpensive, ammo can be a challenge.

texaswoodworker 06-26-2012 03:50 AM

They're very cool little guns. Unlike normal revolvers, their cylinder slides forwards when cocked. This, in combination with their specially designed ammo will create a gas seal that will add 200-300 fps to the bullet's velocity. It also allows them to be successfully suppressed.

Generally, they have a pretty heavy trigger when fired double action. This can be fixed with a little careful filing (check out THENAGANTMAN on youtube. he has a video on how to do this correctly). The trigger is not too bas when fired single action. There are also a few versions of the Russian model. They come in SA only (issued to enlisted), and SA/DA (issued to officers).

It can be pretty accurate depending on the ammo you used, and the condition of the gun's bore. 7.62 Nagant is hard to find at times, but there are a lot of online stores that have it now. It will generally cost about $20-$25 for a box of 50. An alternate choice would be to use a similar caliber, or reload for it. .32 S&W short, .32 S&W long, and .32 H&R magnum will all work in this gun, but will not be very accurate, and the cases will usually bulge, or split.

Here are a couple links for it's factory ammo.

(Surplus---- http://www.jgsales.com/7.62-nagant-russian-surplus-108gr-fmj,-14rd-box.-p-6865.html )

(New--- http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AP762Nag&name=Prvi+Partizan+PPU+ 7.62+Nagant+98grn+FPJ+50rd+Box&groupid=124 )

Reloading is the cheapest choice in the long run, and will give you the best accuracy. LEE makes a set of 7.62 Nagant dies that work great. They work by reforming .32-20 brass (starline works best since it's rim is slightly thinner), and uses .311-.313 lead bullets. You can get plated bullets too, but I have never used them, so I'm not sure what size works best.

If you use lead bullets, make sure to take the cylinder off every 25-50 rds, and clean the cylinder pin. If you don't, the cylinder could become stuck. This happens because lead builds up on the pin after each shot. It literally only takes 2 seconds to take the pin off, so this is not a major problem at all.

The gun itself shouldn't cost anymore then $100-$120. They come with a holster, a cleaning rod, and a screwdriver. Some come with a lanyard, but mine didn't. They are great guns for plinking, and are really fun to shoot.

Here's a pic of it's special gas seal ammo.

http://media.midwayusa.com/productim...520/520853.jpg

http://www.makarov.com/nagant/m95a.JPG

vincent 06-26-2012 03:52 AM

Great post...+1

lilrichthedragon 06-26-2012 05:44 PM

are they accurate

HOSSFLY 06-26-2012 06:11 PM

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quote=texaswoodworker;849647]They're very cool little guns. Unlike normal revolvers, their cylinder slides forwards when cocked. This, in combination with their specially designed ammo will create a gas seal that will add 200-300 fps to the bullet's velocity. It also allows them to be successfully suppressed.

Generally, they have a pretty heavy trigger when fired double action. This can be fixed with a little careful filing (check out THENAGANTMAN on youtube. he has a video on how to do this correctly). The trigger is not too bas when fired single action. There are also a few versions of the Russian model. They come in SA only (issued to enlisted), and SA/DA (issued to officers).

It can be pretty accurate depending on the ammo you used, and the condition of the gun's bore. 7.62 Nagant is hard to find at times, but there are a lot of online stores that have it now. It will generally cost about $20-$25 for a box of 50. An alternate choice would be to use a similar caliber, or reload for it. .32 S&W short, .32 S&W long, and .32 H&R magnum will all work in this gun, but will not be very accurate, and the cases will usually bulge, or split.


Reloading is the cheapest choice in the long run, and will give you the best accuracy. LEE makes a set of 7.62 Nagant dies that work great. They work by reforming .32-20 brass (starline works best since it's rim is slightly thinner), and uses .311-.313 lead bullets. You can get plated bullets too, but I have never used them, so I'm not sure what size works best.

If you use lead bullets, make sure to take the cylinder off every 25-50 rds, and clean the cylinder pin. If you don't, the cylinder could become stuck. This happens because lead builds up on the pin after each shot. It literally only takes 2 seconds to take the pin off, so this is not a major problem at all.

The gun itself shouldn't cost anymore then $100-$120. They come with a holster, a cleaning rod, and a screwdriver. Some come with a lanyard, but mine didn't. They are great guns for plinking, and are really fun to shoot.

Can't think of a thing to add to that :cool:
Except its a cool inexspensive shooter that will get some attention at the range;)

vincent 06-26-2012 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HOSSFLY (Post 850207)
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Can't think of a thing to add to that :cool:
Except its a cool inexspensive shooter that will get some attention at the range;)

Plus dem funny lookin' boolits too...:p

silverado113 06-26-2012 06:23 PM

Aaron nice write up! I wish I had that kind of passion at your age!...lol

texaswoodworker 06-26-2012 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lilrichthedragon (Post 850187)
are they accurate

They can be. There are some target models floating around out there (I think the only difference is that they have a longer, thicker barrel, and a set of large target grips).
Don't expect it to win any accuracy competitions with them. You may also have to fiddle with the sights a bit when you first get it. Mine were off somewhat, but they are easy to adjust. One last thing, most Nagants were zeroed at about 25 meters, so if you want to shoot at targets any closer then that, aim low.
I recommend getting one. $100 is not much for a gun like this.


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Originally Posted by silverado113 (Post 850221)
Aaron nice write up! I wish I had that kind of passion at your age!...lol

Thanks. I have always had a love of history, and guns, and gun design. So I really like learning about the guns I buy. :D


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