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rp50817 09-20-2010 02:19 AM

Legal for deer hunting?
 
I have a.45 caliber single action revolver made by A. Uberti. It is an 1873 model. My ammunition is Winchester Super X 45 Colt 225 Gr. Silvertip HP. Is it legal for deer hunting in Nebraska? There seems to be some disagreement regarding its muzzle velocity. I know it would drop a deer at 30-40 yards easily. I called the Department of Natural Resources and the person I spoke to told me it was legal, but he did not verify his opinion. How would you advise me? Use it, don't use it, or seek another opinion from an agency official? The person I spoke to said the game warden "does not use a chronograph anyway."

c3shooter 09-20-2010 02:47 AM

Well, Nebraska requires a handgun be able to deliver 400 ft lbs at 50 yards. I don't think you have that. Winchester lists the specs on that ammo at 920 fps. That gives you a MUZZLE energy of about 423 ft lbs. I think it will shed more than 23 ft lbs at 50 yards.

Would it stop a deer? Bullet in the right place, probably. It is legal? Don't think so. And not that you asked me, but for deer (I use a LOOOOONG barreled 357) I do not use HP ammo, but the heaviest hard cast solid I can load.

rp50817 09-20-2010 03:30 PM

Thanks for the great advice
 
I appreciate the many good answers from Forum members regarding whether my revolver is legal for deer hunting in Nebraska.

RMc 09-30-2010 04:29 PM

Double Tap 255 SWC
 
DoubleTap Ammunition

Caliber : .45 Colt Standard Pressure Load
Bullet : 255gr. Keith-Style SWC Hardcast
Ballistics : 950fps - 511 ft./lbs. - 7.5" bbl.

rp50817 09-30-2010 05:01 PM

Yes sir. Excellent recommendation.

RMc 09-30-2010 05:13 PM

More information
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RMc (Post 360416)
DoubleTap Ammunition

Caliber : .45 Colt Standard Pressure Load
Bullet : 255gr. Keith-Style SWC Hardcast
Ballistics : 950fps - 511 ft./lbs. - 7.5" bbl.


Energy: 400 foot-pounds for a 255 grain bullet at 840 fps.

FreedomFighter69 10-06-2010 01:03 PM

How far away will you most likely be when you attempt to shoot the deer ?
511 lbs is at the muzzle with that ammo. Unless your hand loading with the 45 Long Colt, I wouldn't hunt with it ! There's not enough energy transfer to take a deer with one shot. Your better off with a 44 Mag or 454 Casull. After 25 yards the bullet energy starts to drop a lot faster. You want something that's going to hit with a muzzle energy of at least 500 lbs at contact with the target.
Remington UMC line 44 Magnum 180 grain has a muzzle velocity of 1610 fps and a muzzle energy of 1036. At 50 yards it's at 745, and at 100 yards 551. This would be optimum ! The 45 Long Colt unless hand loaded just don't have it.
I would hate to see you have to put 3 or 4 shots into your deer.

RMc 10-06-2010 04:36 PM

50 Yards.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RMc (Post 360448)
Energy: 400 foot-pounds for a 255 grain bullet at 840 fps.

This was for the Double Tap load at 50 yards. That big flat nose hard cast bullet will punch a half inch hole completely through any deer.

bigtiller 10-10-2010 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RMc (Post 363983)
This was for the Double Tap load at 50 yards. That big flat nose hard cast bullet will punch a half inch hole completely through any deer.

Can the OP's Uberty handle these high pressures?

RMc 10-10-2010 04:09 AM

Standard Pressure means within SAAMI specs.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigtiller (Post 365867)
Can the OP's Uberty handle these high pressures?

The Winchester Super X 45 Colt 225 Gr. Silvertip HP is a standard pressure load.

The Double Tap 255gr. Keith-Style SWC Hardcast standard pressure load is also a standard pressure load!


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