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jjfuller1 07-10-2012 12:39 AM

HnR problem
 
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had a fun weekend shooting tons of ammo and targets. however we encountered one mishap.

my revolver busted. the little parts came out of the hammer area.

my brother was using it. fired 3 rounds then it locked up. the cylnder would not budge. it took him pushing the pin and pulling the rod and me working the hammer,cylinder, and trigger to get the cylinder to release. after release the little tiny hook piece fell into my hand. the other three came out apon being home.

so my questions?
what are the peices?
what are the availabilty of the replacement parts?
what are the costs of parts?
is this something i can do?
should i scrap the revolver?

MobileMarine 07-10-2012 12:45 AM

Is it a 949 or a sportsman or what ? I have 2 matching 949 and they are semi ok guns but my sportsman is dangerous as hell .
Numrich has a good deal of parts . Unless a pin or screw came out then something broke . If you cant fix it or want to fix it , I may buy it off you , just pm me

ok pics did not load at first , Let me go look at my 949s and see what you got going on

jjfuller1 07-10-2012 12:52 AM

i think its a 686 i'll double check

MobileMarine 07-10-2012 12:57 AM

ok yours is different but the P shaped item appears to be the transfer bar , the next down rotates the cylinder , the last one , i think holds the cylinder in place and comes up into the small notches on the cylinder but its broke , the rest is pro jammed in the gun , that pin may have also sheared .

c3shooter 07-10-2012 12:59 AM

First, those are parts of your lockwork, and yes, the lifter in that pic is broken- second, take it to a gunsmith.

That is not said to slam you in any way- those are solid frame revolvers, and unless you have learned how to assemble pieces parts, slide them into a solid frame, and blindly get them in the exact right spot before placing the retaining pins, you are likely to run out of profanity before getting it back together. Really. I own a couple that I will not work on, and I have to ply my smith with booze to get him to do it.

Good news- SOME used parts available. Bad news- that is not a really high dollar gun- parts and labor MAY be more than a replacement- but take it to a smith before you toss it.

MobileMarine 07-10-2012 01:02 AM

I was a bit off , it seems all of those parts work the cylinder up '' rotate it ''but here is a diagram and parts list
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=7910

MobileMarine 07-10-2012 01:18 AM

Looks like you need 18 27 28 possibly 49 and or 50 . C3 is right , a solid frame can be an experience . Go figure the gun is worth about 100-150 ish , maybe and a smith may run about 50-85 and hour .
But it looks like the pin that holds all 3 in either bent or broke when the lifter #18 gave up the ghost and that caused the rest to come running out of the wood work .
You will need a good light , good tweezers , a very small punch , maybe a pick and a hook and about 3-5 hands , your tongue must also be hanging out just right .
If all else fails I give a good home to neglected , broken and un-appreciated guns :D
I fix them and hold them and pet them and call them George.

If you can fix it will be a professional by the time your done with it and feel better knowing you tackled a fairly difficult task and made it work again .

The transfurry bar #18 slides up between the firing pin and hammer WHEN you pull the trigger , kinda a safety deal , my 949 has the firing pin on the hammer :D . 27 and 28 work off the spring on 27 and thats where the real pain in the ass comes in to play . Very tedious work and should take you no less than 4-5 hours for your 1st time around

jjfuller1 07-10-2012 01:25 AM

Thanks for great info. Gave me a giggle too. I have some contemplating to do.

jjfuller1 07-10-2012 01:45 AM

As best I can tell peice 28 broke and the others fell out due to the lack of peice 28


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