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kmglocks 09-06-2012 02:15 AM

Help with old obsolete revolver
 
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Hello, recently I received and old flip top revolver from a friend as a project. It's a harrington and richardson arms .38 s&w. Don't know much about it though. All i know is that the cylinder doesn't lock on it. Any ideas as i do not know much about revolvers, thanks! I will attach pics.

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mountainman13 09-06-2012 02:17 AM

What do you mean it doesn't lock? Does it cycle when you pull the trigger? Does the stop come up out of the frame?

kmglocks 09-06-2012 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainman13
What do you mean it doesn't lock? Does it cycle when you pull the trigger? Does the stop come up out of the frame?

You can freely spin the cylinder when its in battery. It cycles when you pull the trigger too.

c3shooter 09-06-2012 02:26 AM

Most of the H&R or Iver Johnson top break revolvers had an action that did not lock the cylinder in position UNTIL it was at the point of firing.

When the hammer is cocked, the cylinder SHOULD be locked in position. When hammer is down, free spinning.

These revolvers were made by the hundreds of thousands. If the caliber is marked ON THE BARREL, it should be OK with modern day ammo. If elsewhere, then it dates from the black powder era.

Yours appears to be in good finish. I would get a competent pistolsmith to look it over before shooting it. H&R and Iver Johnson made decent guns- they were not junk (and yeah, there were some junk guns back then) Prices were not high then- or now- unless you have one in like new condition.

mountainman13 09-06-2012 02:28 AM

Ok. So if you open it up and look at the little slot on the top of the frame (over the trigger) and you cock the hammer. Does the stop come up through the slot?

kmglocks 09-06-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by c3shooter
Most of the H&R or Iver Johnson top break revolvers had an action that did not lock the cylinder in position UNTIL it was at the point of firing.

When the hammer is cocked, the cylinder SHOULD be locked in position. When hammer is down, free spinning.

These revolvers were made by the hundreds of thousands. If the caliber is marked ON THE BARREL, it should be OK with modern day ammo. If elsewhere, then it dates from the black powder era.

Yours appears to be in good finish. I would get a competent pistolsmith to look it over before shooting it. H&R and Iver Johnson made decent guns- they were not junk (and yeah, there were some junk guns back then) Prices were not high then- or now- unless you have one in like new condition.

That makes sense, it just didnt seem logical that it spun freely as i am used to more modern revolvers. Thanks for the reassurance.

danf_fl 09-06-2012 02:30 AM

That small piece above the trigger (lifter? in H&R) may not be moving up. Possible that the spring is broke.
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kmglocks 09-06-2012 03:36 AM

Just an fyi when the hammer is back the cylinder rotates or has give in it so the cylinder has the possibility of not meeting the barrel flush, not good.

mountainman13 09-06-2012 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mountainman13
Ok. So if you open it up and look at the little slot on the top of the frame (over the trigger) and you cock the hammer. Does the stop come up through the slot?

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kmglocks 09-06-2012 03:45 AM

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Yes it does.


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