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Old 06-11-2009, 04:08 PM   #21
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I've thought about the critical defense as I've heard good things. I actually saw them at Dick's last week but had to turn them down, no funds. i've got some Gold Dot 125+p that the wife shoots very well out of her new Ruger SP101 so I'll stick with them for now. I've also got a box of DPX 110+p but haven't tried them yet.
I do have the Taurus load which uses the Barnes Copper bullet in 185gr for my 45acp that I carry sometimes. Everything I hear about that bullet is good.
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Look into Double Tap Ammo .38 spl. + P. Good stuff!
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Hornady Critical Defense in .38 spl
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I got in my SP101 Federal Hydrashocks, not sure if are still made, can't find them anymore.

I heard that Federal replace them with some new round.
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148 gr. target wadcutters will work quite well.
+P is not necessary, and it increases recoil. A hit with the wadcutter is much better than a miss with super duper buffalo core +++P++ stuff that may as well be the .357 Magnum she doesn't like.
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Default Remington 158gr +p LSWCHP

I'm really surprised nobody has listed this one:

Remington Express Ammunition 38 Special +P 158 Grain Lead Hollow Point Box of 50 - MidwayUSA

The lead will expand very well. The wadcutter will cause a lot of permanent cavity damage (more than a jacketed bullet). And the recoil is really quite manageable. My wife carries them, who is very recoil-sensitive.

Good write-up here.
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You guys really dug up a 2 year old thread?

For the record, my current SD load is a 125gr +p Gold Dot. I'm hoping to do away with it completely and switch the wife over to 110gr 357s.....we'll see.
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You guys really dug up a 2 year old thread?

For the record, my current SD load is a 125gr +p Gold Dot. I'm hoping to do away with it completely and switch the wife over to 110gr 357s.....we'll see.
Spitty, don't shoot a full diet of the light weight 357s. The bullet leaves the case before it engages the forcing cone and the flame cutting can spoil your day!

Just have her throw the heaver bullet with a lighter load. It's all close in PD shooting, right? You are reloading, right?

I wont shoot the light (Read: short) bullets in my M19.
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148 gr. target wadcutters will work quite well.
+P is not necessary, and it increases recoil. A hit with the wadcutter is much better than a miss with super duper buffalo core +++P++ stuff that may as well be the .357 Magnum she doesn't like.
Simmer down there fella. . .

+p Ammo is not anything close to .357, especially in the specific gun we are referring to.

Federal makes a "low-recoil" .38 special "hydra-shok" that has great ballistics from the gel I saw (ouch!). MANDY, Below is a link:

Federal Premium Personal Defense Ammunition PD38HS3H, 38 Special, Hydra-Shok JHP, 110 GR,

For a defensive situation, I agree that .357 is not the best choice for very many shooters. The flash and sound if fired in a car or home are hardcore (trust me! I've tested it in the younger years out in the desert) and can shock you if you're not prepared.

The reason wadcutters are not very practical for personal defense is, in the case of a miss (or even a hit in some cases) that they often penetrate material such as plywood, drywall, sheetmetal, etc. These are materials that an innocent bystander or family member could be behind during an attack. That is why "Personal Protection" ammo is lighter, softer and only semi-jacketed. Furthermore, it is designed to expand properly

.38 special protective ammo:

Speer Gold Dot
Personal Protection Short Barrel .38 SPL +P 135 gr GDHP - very mild recoil, damn good gelatin reports.

Hornady Critical Defense .38 SPL +P 110 gr FTX projectile

Almost every maker has a good .38 SPL load that will be very controllable.
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Spitty, don't shoot a full diet of the light weight 357s. The bullet leaves the case before it engages the forcing cone and the flame cutting can spoil your day!

Just have her throw the heaver bullet with a lighter load. It's all close in PD shooting, right? You are reloading, right?

I wont shoot the light (Read: short) bullets in my M19.
I won't shoot them in my M19 either. I played with them in her SP101 and my GP100. I don't like the 110gr 357 at all but for her, for SD they might work. I got the bullets in trade but I haven't had my wife shoot them yet.
If it were me I'd carry 158gr.
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