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Old 05-19-2009, 09:23 PM   #1
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I am trying to add some speed to my reloading of my Taurus Raging Bull (don't ask why...), which is being slowed down by the fact that this model has two cylinder locks. The question is, has anybody tried to remove the front lock ? And by doing so, would I potentially be doing something dangerous ? The fact is that other .44 revolver function fine with only one lock.

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Old 05-20-2009, 04:15 PM   #2
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Depends on what you do with this gun.

If there is any chance it will be used for PD, you open yourself to a ton of liability issues.

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It is there for a reason. Just like every other part of the gun they are there for a reason. This one is SAFETY. If you wish to have you hand blown off by a possible catastrophic failure then go for it.

Darwin commands you to do it.

I know your thinking that S&W does have one. yada yada yada. but the desigtn of this pistol is to have two of them one front and one back. LEAVE IT THAT WAY. they dude that put it there knows more about firearms than just about anyone here.

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I just have to ask, why do you need to practice speed loading with that revolver? if you can't stop whatever you're aiming at with 5 shots from that cannon you should have never taken the first one.

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Hi Guys
I guess it was inevitable: The reason why I asked about the front lock was because I want to shoot IPSC with this revolver. I know, not the smartest thing to do, but I already got the revolver, so I want to see how well I do with it. Kind of like climbing Mount Everest: Not the smartest thing to do, but some do it anyhow, just because it is possible. Nevertheless I do appreciate the input, and it seems like everybody is saying that I should leave it alone,..

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I agree with leaving it alone but you might want to take it to a good gunsmith and ask the question. I don't know why there is a doulble lock, it might be extra safety or it may be required in the design. A good smith can tell you.

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When the Raging Bull was first unvailed at the Shot Show in Vegas at the Taurus booth, I was one of the first to handle it. I was very impressed with it at the time, except for one thing. The cylinder only had one locking point and that was at the rear of the cylinder. I pushed on the opposite side of the cylinder and the crane moved about 1/32 of an inch which moved the cylinder out of alignment with the bore by quite a bit. The second problem would be as that the rear pin is spring loaded, there is a slight chance of the cylinder unlocking itself under the heavy and abrupt recoil of the .454. The Bull I was handleing at the time was a .454. I brought this to the attention of the Taurus brass that were there, showed them the problem (one of them was the major designer of the Raging Bull) and recomended the change. The recomended change being the third lock as on the old triple lock Smith&Wesson or the crane lock on the Dan Wesson. They went with my advise on the Dan Wesson design for the production guns and never gave any credit to me for the suggestion. DO NOT REMOVE the front crane lock on your Raging Bull, it is there for a reason.

Jim Alvord (formally Alvord Custom Guns)

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Why not just sell it and buy a ruger rehawk or a smith and wesson model 29.

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To Jim, thanks for the info. I left the front lock alone and still shot a 11 stage IPSC match with it, so it is just a matter of practic.
Sure, I will never reach anything close to the speeds of Jerry Miculek, but I sure did have a lot of fun....

To onenut58
There are several reason why I will not sell the Taurus
1) Living in Chile we do not have the same access to firearms as one has in the US, so it is not like I can go down to a gunshop and get anything that I want. To import a gun ( if possible) you'll have to wait for something like 6 month and bureaucracy is horrendous..and expensive,.. So you buy what is available in the shops, which is very little.

2) I like the Taurus Raging bull,.. one of the aesthetically best design of a revolver I have ever seen....
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