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tCan 04-02-2013 01:31 AM

Does Ruger make a S&W 36 / Colt detective?
 
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hiwall 04-02-2013 01:56 AM

they make the LCR in 22, 38, or 357

tCan 04-02-2013 02:00 AM

I'd buy their SP101 before I touched that piece of sin.

shouldazagged 04-02-2013 02:14 AM

SP101 is a nice little gun, built like a bank vault like all Ruger revolvers. But a Smith J-frame or Colt D-frame it's not. Heavier than they are, and the only ones I've handled didn't have quite the trigger smoothness of the J's and D's. On the other hand, they are damn near indestructible; but with reasonable care a 36 or Dick Special should last just about forever too.

The extra weight is nice for damping recoil.

I'm just a die-hard Smith guy, especially the older ones.

hiwall 04-02-2013 04:37 AM

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I'm just a die-hard Smith guy, especially the older ones.
My EDC is a 37.
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I'd buy their SP101 before I touched that piece of sin.
I would have worded it different but I do agree completely. I only said LCR as that is as close a Ruger gets to a J-frame.
I like Ruger revolvers(except those LCR's) and have a couple around here.

mdauben 04-02-2013 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by shouldazagged
Heavier than they are, and the only ones I've handled didn't have quite the trigger smoothness of the J's and D's.

Actually, the SP101 is only an ounce or two heavier than a steel j-frame. I'll agree the Smiths generally have better triggers, although the difference with the new j-frames isn't as large as it used to be with the older ones.

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Originally Posted by shouldazagged
The extra weight is nice for damping recoil.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to shoot one of the alloy j-frames in .357 mag. The SP101 or the steel S&W 60 are about the lightest guns I'd want to shoot full bore .357 ammo with. The alloy j-frames do get my nod for standard .38 special or even the +P stuff, though.

tCan 04-02-2013 10:29 AM

I don't want a .357. I want a 38spl. Or a 44 spl. I realize the magnums can fire both, but that's just what I want.

Olympus 04-02-2013 02:22 PM

Then you're stuck with only the plastic wonder pistol commonly referred to as the LCR.

shouldazagged 04-02-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mdauben (Post 1200249)
Actually, the SP101 is only an ounce or two heavier than a steel j-frame. I'll agree the Smiths generally have better triggers, although the difference with the new j-frames isn't as large as it used to be with the older ones.


Yeah, I wouldn't want to shoot one of the alloy j-frames in .357 mag. The SP101 or the steel S&W 60 are about the lightest guns I'd want to shoot full bore .357 ammo with. The alloy j-frames do get my nod for standard .38 special or even the +P stuff, though.

My carry gun for years has been a no-dash Smith 640 .38 Special, rated for +P+, but +P is fine with me. Weighs 21 ounces, a couple of ounces less than the .357 Magnum version, and lighter still than the SP101. About the same as a .38 Special 36. Comfortable and controllable with 158 grain +P.

It seems to me you would have to really love .357 Magnum to shoot it in any snubby, much less one of the alloy-framed jobs. I'm quite happy with the old FBI load.

SSGN_Doc 04-02-2013 04:56 PM

Consider one thing before discounting the magnums.

The ejector rod is longer on teh magnums and will often get the .38 special brass ejected fully while the ejector rod on a .38 special will not. You don't get too much extra size or weight, and you can still shoot the specials.

I have had a Ruger SP 101 and an S&W airweight. I like the S&W trigger and weight much better for carry.

Just some things to consider.


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