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indyfan 02-11-2011 10:32 PM

Cimarron Plinkerton .22 shrapnel issues
 
I was planning to do a range report on my new Cimarron Plinkerton revolver

but turns out I received a bad gun.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...n/DSC_0049.jpg


The first time I shot this revolver, it fired a nice spread of painful shrapnel back into my left forearm.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y46...n/DSC_0052.jpg


I swore a bit, but thought maybe it was just a one time deal and fired again. The second time the shrapnel hit my face. So we kept firing and having shrapnel launched back us, till finally I couldnt take it anymore, I loaded up the car and drove to my dealer and left it with him. He's agreed to look at it and then send it back to Chiappa arms to be fixed or replaced.

I will keep you guys updated on the situation, just thought I'd fill you in.

c3shooter 02-11-2011 10:34 PM

Indy, looks like you have REAL bad timing (cartridge is not aligned with barrel at moment of firing). THAT is also one of the strongest reasons for good eye protection when shooting.

indyfan 02-11-2011 10:39 PM

I see, thats why I always wear eye protection and require everyone I shoot with to do it too.

My glasses may have saved me from going blind today.

indyfan 02-11-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 443064)
Indy, looks like you have REAL bad timing (cartridge is not aligned with barrel at moment of firing). THAT is also one of the strongest reasons for good eye protection when shooting.

would this affect accuracy? cause this pistol was not accurate at all.

danf_fl 02-12-2011 02:54 AM

Very much so. The bullet should be whole as it proceeds down the barrel. With the forcing cone shaving lead like that, the lands and grooves cannot do their job.

Check on factory warranty, include photos. Another photo op is to place clean white paper on the sides, then fire to show the shrapnel.

indyfan 04-08-2011 04:16 AM

UPDATE

After waiting three weeks and finally getting it back from the manufacturer, were still having issues with it.

On the receipt, it said they re-rifled the barrel or something but I'm still getting a light dusting of shrapnel to the face.

Could this be because it needs to be broken in? Cause this is getting ridiculous. I really don't feel like calling the company again.

I only ask this because I saw a revolver get shot in slow-mo on Top Shot and I noticed that a couple bits of shrapnel flew out of the side of the cylinder.

So maybe this is normal?

I fired it next to a piece of paper and it left a big gray mark.

danf_fl 04-08-2011 10:44 AM

Re-rifled the barrel?
What you have is a timing problem. The cylinder lock is not holding the cylinder aligned with the barrel.
As a test, and triple check that the firearm is unloaded, try this:
Cock the hammer and make sure the cylinder is locked in place.
Use a feeler gauge and measure the gap between the barrel and front of the cylinder.
Take the largest diameter cleaning rod that will fit in the barrel.
See if the cleaning rod stops before going into the cylinder.
If the first hole clears, then go to the next one repeating the process.

Document the test and get back with the manufacturer.

Now on the video from Top Shot: With a little gap between the forcing cone and cylinder, you will get side splatter of powder. All revolvers have a little gap. That is why both hands should be behind the front of the cylinder when shooting a revolver.

Durangokid 04-08-2011 01:18 PM

It sounds like a light chamfer of the forcing cone would correct your problem.:)

c3shooter 04-08-2011 01:41 PM

As Dan said. Also- with firearm unloaded, cock it, and THEN try to turn the cylinder by hand. If you get movement, a "click", etc, then it is not advancing far enough to align the cartridge with the bore.

With any revolver (except a Nagant) you WILL have gasses being ejected at the cylinder gap. Gasses should not include parts of the bullet.

Ref: Chamfer of forcing cone- one some guns, maybe. This one has a steel barrel liner in a non-steel barrel. Chambers are lined with a steel insert in a non-steel cylinder. Try to gunsmith that (on a new gun, to boot) is probably not a good idea. SEND IT BACK

indyfan 04-08-2011 05:03 PM

thanks for the reply guys, when I get off work I will do all the tests to the gun

I will call the manufacturer and I will update you guys later


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