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Old 03-29-2014, 01:57 AM   #11
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Wife has lady chic 38 spl. Does not like the trigger and no longer carries it. She's considering selling it.

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Have a CA Mag Pug, which I consider a POS. It is about two-three years old, which I bought new. The thing shot 20-30 inches low at 25 feet (judging by online videos, a common complaint). Had to machine down the front sight to hit paper. Now it shoots about 6-8 inches to the right (not correctable). The screws constantly loosen during shooting. The rifling has severe chatter marks (!). It is really an expensive Saturday Night Special. Only good as a "throw-away". Should have waited and saved some more to get a real gun, a Ruger. I begin to tire of people who say they are just fine. My standards are much higher. Their customer service is a joke.

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I don't like the barrel porting in the new models. A snub nose revolver needs ever bit of the barrel to be useful. I have an old mag pug with a 3" barrel that shoots very well for a snub nose revolver. The previous owner never shot very much 38 spl ammo in it and I have never shot any 38spl ammo in it. The frame shows no signs of pitting in 40 years of use.

I would buy a new model charter face to face but I would not buy a new model charter online, not even a new one. Even though Charter has been purchased by the original owners they did not revive any of the old charter models that brought the company a good reputation. In fact, nothing has changed about charter other than the owners.

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I have an old mag pug with a 3" barrel that shoots very well for a snub nose revolver.
I don't know if I agree with calling a 3" bbl a snubby. Pretty medium length, if you ask me.
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Thank you all for your opinions! So what made the original Charters so great? What would you say is wrong with the new ones?

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Charters are very light and inexpensive. They will not hold up to the amount of shooting you could give a Ruger GP100 or an N-frame S&W, so if you plan on shooting several hundred rounds every weekend you might want to consider something else. . But if you have a use for a gun that you are going to carry a lot and shoot some, they are just the thing.

Great customer service too. Here's mine:


2" Stainless Bulldog Pug in 44 Spl with factory bobbed hammer.



4" Target Bulldog in 44 Sol with GunKote finish. Weighs 19 oz. Great trail gun.

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The original guns were as small as the S&W, and well-made, for a lot less money than the S&W.
The new guns have a barrel/ejector shroud that is not integral with the barrel.

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Thank you all for your opinions! So what made the original Charters so great? What would you say is wrong with the new ones?
Like everything else in the old days people simply hade more pride in workmanship and everything was built like a tank .

That being said , nothing is " wrong " with charter arms. Their quality control just isnt the best. But as I said their customer service is top notch and firearms which require repair goes right on an assembly line next to new production arms.

One thing I've heard is that charter arms revolver cylinder lock up isnt the best. My buddy got a brand new taurus liteweight .38 spl stainless revolver. And my charter had a slightly tighter lockup than his never been fire taurus.
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Thanks Ghozt you've been a big help!

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Thanks Ghozt you've been a big help!
I'm glad I could help. But some of this is just my opinion. some is fact. If you want to know if charter is worth betting your dough on I'd say yes. Chances are you will get a revolver that will work just fine and youll be very happy with . And if not you can be comforted in the fact you just need to send it to charter and they will make whatever is wrong right fairly quick.

With all handguns you should find a range that rents charters if you really want to get a hands on feel . I love my pitbull . Pull the trigger it goes bang .
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