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Old 11-19-2012, 11:39 PM   #11
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So what is the definition of armor piercing? And, why would brass meet that definition? It's soft and heavy, although harder than lead......



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Back in the 1930s they turned bullets from brass rods. The bullets were made for the then new .220 Swift. They were made for velocity over 4,000 FPS. Back in those days they did have the bullets we have today. The hard brass did not seal throats and barrel life was short.



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Barnes loads hollow points of solid copper at +P pressures. Said to be awesome, with deep penetration and high velocity - 1300 fps out of a .380. I think Cor-Bon makes them too.

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The hard brass did not seal throats and barrel life was short.
Could you explain more, Nightstalker?

I looked up Armor Piercing on Wikipedia. Seems like a VERY hard core is needed to do it. I doubt brass would qualify.
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In the late 1960s to middle 1970s there was a French company that made bullets from bronze on a screw machine. I remember the name as "Mystique", but can't find anything on line about them. They were designed to be 'penetrator' type ammunition; for use against vehicles, barricades and body armor. The bullet was made with a non-curved, spire point tip; much like the old 'metal piercing' ammunition of prior times.

Turns out they were loaded to European pressure levels, which were - exciting, to say the least. And then, shortly after, the Leftists in Congress declared them - as part of the type - 'cop killer bullets' and therefore illegal.

The lightweight alloy bullets are prior to my experience. Odd I haven't read about them.

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Many used to cast bullets and use empty 22 cases for jackets.

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Many used to cast bullets and use empty 22 cases for jackets.
If I remember correctly, they were swaged rather than cast cores, then swaged as a jacketed bullet using the .22 case.

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years ago some used to cast bullets out of Babbitt metal. it was lighter than lead.
old age sucks, I remember now that you mentioned it, we use to pour this concoction to make new bearings.......


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