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twobilly 04-29-2013 01:37 PM

45 acp +P
 
Is it safe to shoot 45 acp + P in the new model Ruger Vaqueros chambered for the 45acp

JimRau 04-29-2013 01:45 PM

Ask Ruger.

twobilly 04-29-2013 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JimRau (Post 1231048)
Ask Ruger.

Jim I did ask Ruger and couldnt get a stright answer from them

Sniper03 04-29-2013 01:56 PM

As Jim stated. Ruger is the best choice for the information. My opinion I would not!
I believe in time it would no doubt damage your fine Ruger Vaquero which is a fine gun!
Their original revolver design was not designed to fire very hot defense rounds.
And for me I can not see taking a chance with any of my prized pieces. Even a model 66 S&W 357 Mag. Pistol will not withstand a constant diet of magnum loads and they were theoretically built for those rounds. Only my opinion!;)

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c3shooter 04-29-2013 02:00 PM

yes.

I would not feed it a steady diet of +P- it will accelerate wear on the gun- but not unsafe.

Overkill0084 04-29-2013 02:27 PM

+P is a legit spec. Typically if it's not safe to use +P ammo, a gun maker will be quite clear about it. NOTE: the +P spec wasn't exactly a huge leap in pressure either. It's a jump from 21,000 psi to 23,000 psi (not quite 9%). This might pose a problem in granddad's 1918 Colt, but in a modern Ruger it's not really worth worrying about, IMHO.

From Wikipedia:
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The original Vaquero was built to safely fire higher pressure 45 Colt ammunition than the Black powder chamberings, having significantly thicker cylinder walls than other revolvers. Many reloading manuals contain Ruger-only recommended handloads that are considered unsafe for use in other than Ruger Blackhawk, Redhawk, Thompson/Center and Ruger Vaquero model revolvers. Ruger New Vaquero model revolvers, having thinner cylinder walls, are not considered safe for use with the Ruger-only loads taken from the older editions of these manuals. Ruger states that the "New Model Vaquero" will handle +P and +P+ ammunition without any issues, but warn users not to shoot reloads in any of their guns as it will void the warranty.[3]

twobilly 04-29-2013 03:01 PM

I want to thank everyone for their in-put on this I wouldnt want to take a chance of ruining my
gun as Sniper brought out it just would not be worth it.
I was considering only useing the +P as more or less for a densive load when I am out hikeing

JonM 04-29-2013 03:18 PM

You can. The new vaquero is pretty stout. Its not a colt or uberti clone of a colt.

It will accelerate wear on the cylinder and forcing cone but not a lot.

Did you get the 45colt 45acp combo??

If so 45 colt is a more effective round than the acp

twobilly 04-29-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JonM (Post 1231118)
You can. The new vaquero is pretty stout. Its not a colt or uberti clone of a colt.

It will accelerate wear on the cylinder and forcing cone but not a lot.

Did you get the 45colt 45acp combo??

If so 45 colt is a more effective round than the acp

No Jon I didnt get the combo I have the Ruger Vaquero Birdshead model in 45 acp

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...s/31213006.jpg

JimRau 04-30-2013 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c3shooter (Post 1231063)
yes.

I would not feed it a steady diet of +P- it will accelerate wear on the gun- but not unsafe.

That would be my personal advice. The 45 ACP is not a high pressure round so even at +p I don't see it causing a problem in a modern firearm which also has been chambered in 357 Mag.;)


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