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Old 01-30-2014, 06:06 PM   #31
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It's commonly said, that with properly designed bullets, the 9 mm is suitable as a SD round. If one agrees with that, then the .38 special should pass muster with appropriately designed bullets.
Given the option of a similar or near identical revolver that chambers .357 vs one that is .38 special only, IMHO one should always go with the .357 option when available. Versatility with no penalty? Sign me up. The only downside of shooting .38s out of a .357 is that a bit more elbow grease may be required to scrub out the carbon rings in the chambers.

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Great post Texaswoody. I like the ugly little pistol also. It is a great tool for reloading experiments. If the little orphan had a thumb release magazine catch? I want to try the .22 caliber Sabot loads these are dynamic. I understand however the accuracy has not been that good.
I was able to pick-up 3,000 rounds of Mil-Surp Ammo last week for $200 bucks. I will have plenty of ammo to shoot in it.
Where the heck did you find a deal like that!
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The .327 Mag. looks very impressive. I have not yet seen a gun chambered for it that I like. As for a hot round in a inexpensive hand gun the 7.62X25 Tok can rival modern hot handguns. The CZ 52 which can fire Sub-Gun ammo is a dynamic weapon. Yes it is ugly and fails in ergonomics but it is powerful.
I can not see a reason the 7.62x25 isnt more popular and why there are no modern guns chambered in it (that I Know of). It is a bad little bit*h of a round and I believe it is similar to the 357 Sig in terms of ballistics.
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It's commonly said, that with properly designed bullets, the 9 mm is suitable as a SD round. If one agrees with that, then the .38 special should pass muster with appropriately designed bullets.
Given the option of a similar or near identical revolver that chambers .357 vs one that is .38 special only, IMHO one should always go with the .357 option when available. Versatility with no penalty? Sign me up. The only downside of shooting .38s out of a .357 is that a bit more elbow grease may be required to scrub out the carbon rings in the chambers.
You're so right about cleaning off those rings left by the .38s in a .357. Hoppes took too long so I did some research. I put a wad of "nevr-dull" wadding polish on the end of the cleaning rod. It works awesome. It also works great on the carbon fouling that blackens the front of the cylinder on stainless steel guns.

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I can not see a reason the 7.62x25 isnt more popular and why there are no modern guns chambered in it (that I Know of). It is a bad little bit*h of a round and I believe it is similar to the 357 Sig in terms of ballistics.
I think the reason it isn't that common today is because of it's history of over penetration problems. IIRC, it could actually penetrate Kevlar vests.

That was with FMJ ammo though, which is what this ammo mostly used. There are so many good bullet designs today, that over penetration shouldn't be much of a problem anymore.

It's a hell of a round, and is quickly becoming on of my favorites. I'd like a small lightweight bolt action rifle chambered in it. It would be a decent varmint gun.
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I think the reason it isn't that common today is because of it's history of over penetration problems. IIRC, it could actually penetrate Kevlar vests.

That was with FMJ ammo though, which is what this ammo mostly used. There are so many good bullet designs today, that over penetration shouldn't be much of a problem anymore.

It's a hell of a round, and is quickly becoming on of my favorites. I'd like a small lightweight bolt action rifle chambered in it. It would be a decent varmint gun.
No bolt action that I know of, but you can have a PPSh semi auto.
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I can not see a reason the 7.62x25 isnt more popular and why there are no modern guns chambered in it (that I Know of). It is a bad little bit*h of a round and I believe it is similar to the 357 Sig in terms of ballistics.
You have named the reason. The 357 Magnum as well as 357 SIG and more to boot.
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No bolt action that I know of, but you can have a PPSh semi auto.
I have a PPS-43C.

The bolt action would be custom. Maybe built off one of the mini Mausers that are floating around.
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It's even shaped like a rifle round. Considering it's almost the 7.63, good thinking

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Im still shopping around for a new revolver and im wondering. Should i just go with a 357? Or a 38? The gun will be used for my self defense so is 38 special enough to do the job
go buy yourself a nice 357MAG, I think
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