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Old 11-20-2013, 10:51 AM   #61
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I donno about chuck hawks, but brassfetcher had good things to say about them. Here's a summary table with penetration, barrier penetration and overpenetration tests.

http://www.brassfetcher.com/327%20Magnum/327%20Federal%20Magnum%20Summary%20Table.pdf

"The .327 Federal Magnum is a revolver cartridge meant to increase the shot capacity of a cylinder while maintaining a high lethality for a cartridge of its size. A revolver that can hold five shots of .38 Special can hold six shots of .327 Federal Magnum.

Recoil of this cartridge is about 20% lower than a 357 Magnum in the same weight of revolver, allowing for faster and more precise follow-up shots. It is a high –performance cartridge and if you can tolerate the recoil, we recommend it over 38 Special and 357 Magnum snubnoses."

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I hate to sound uninformed, but who is Chuck Hawks, and why should I take his word for something I may end up betting my life on?


http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2.guns.htm
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I hate to sound uninformed, but who is Chuck Hawks, and why should I take his word for something I may end up betting my life on?
Guns and Shooting online. Basically folks with opinions who can write pretty well. Even if you don't follow their logic it usually gives you something to think about. And if they can convince someone not to but a 6.5x20x56 in see thru mounts on their 30-30....Well that's a good thing.
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Okay. Got it. Thank you all for the response. I had never heard of him.

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The .327, in fact, is really too powerful for small frame revolvers, such as the Ruger SP101 reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online. How is a revolver chambered in .357 somehow inadaquate to handle a smaller caliber?
In a medium or large frame revolver, such as a Ruger Blackhawk, the .327 is a potent weapon. It looks and performs like a scaled down .357 Magnum. In a full sized revolver, why scale down at all?
.327 Magnum Factory loads are available with highly effective Federal Hydra-Shok and Speer Gold Dot JHP bullets. As are any number of other calibers.
The Federal Premium Low Recoil load uses an 85 grain Hydra-Shok bullet at 1400 fps MV and 370 ft. lbs. ME. This outperforms full power .38 Special +P and 9mm Luger loads in velocity and kinetic energy. Considering it's around a hundred years newer than both, it should. But then neither is really the last word in high performance handgun rounds. Much like beating up a senior citizen, that statement doesn't really prove anything.
The full power Speer 100 and 115 grain Gold Dot HP factory loads (500 ft. lbs and 486 ft. lbs. ME, respectively) hit harder than 9mm +P loads and deliver similar energy on target to the .357 SIG and .40 S&W. Energy numbers are only part of the equation. Comparing it to .357 Sig & .40 S&W is apples to grapes. Revolver cartridge vs. Semi Auto cartridge. Why not compare it to .357 Magnum? That's the cartridge it's competing against in the marketplace. The guy at the counter looking at a Glock 23 isn't likely to cross shop the .327 federal revolvers. Oh wait, what .327 federal Revolvers? They aren't exactly growing on trees.
This is a small bore to be reckoned with! TBD.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. While I think that the .327 fed is an interesting cartridge, it's by no means the great leap forward that some would have us believe. Add to the issue, the fact that no one seems to buy them, sorry, but it's doomed. I can get a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine, but not in .327 federal, not exactly a ringing endorsement. For now, Ruger & S&W both make one each DA in .327 fed Mag. If Taurus makes one, it's buried deep in the line up. Charter Arms? No.

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"The .327 Federal Magnum is a revolver cartridge meant to increase the shot capacity of a cylinder while maintaining a high lethality for a cartridge of its size. A revolver that can hold five shots of .38 Special can hold six shots of .327 Federal Magnum.

Recoil of this cartridge is about 20% lower than a 357 Magnum in the same weight of revolver, allowing for faster and more precise follow-up shots. It is a high performance cartridge and if you can tolerate the recoil, we recommend it over 38 Special and 357 Magnum snubnoses."
Good luck finding those snubbie .327s.
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion. While I think that the .327 fed is an interesting cartridge, it's by no means the great leap forward that some would have us believe. Add to the issue, the fact that no one seems to buy them, sorry, but it's doomed. I can get a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 Carbine, but not in .327 federal, not exactly a ringing endorsement. For now, Ruger & S&W both make one each DA in .327 fed Mag. If Taurus makes one, it's buried deep in the line up. Charter Arms? No. Good luck finding those snubbie .327s.
I don't need luck. I don't even own a revolver. Quite frankly aside from a purse gun for the wife or a novelty gun for me I have no desire to ever own one. I was just passing on some unbiased information since somebody was asking about it.
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I don't need luck. I don't even own a revolver.
You need to remedy that. There's nothing quite like shooting a S&W wheel fun.

Even if it would be strictly a range gun for you, I recommend putting some thought into buying one in the future. I doubt you'll be disappointed.
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I don't need luck. I don't even own a revolver. Quite frankly aside from a purse gun for the wife or a novelty gun for me I have no desire to ever own one. I was just passing on some unbiased information since somebody was asking about it.
You're missing out. At some point you should look into adding a .357 to your stable. Shooting a quality revolver is one of life's pleasures.
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Dad has a few different ones that he lets me play with whenever I want. No reason for me to buy something I would pretty much never use. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year I'll take his revolvers out to the range. Always just to mess around. I can also check out an S&W any time I want at our range for free. So there's 0 reason for me to spend a few hundred bucks just to play John Wayne for an hour.

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So there's 0 reason for me to spend a few hundred bucks just to play John Wayne for an hour.
Get your Nomex on. Those are almost fightin' words.
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