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Old 05-14-2013, 11:24 PM   #71
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[ just bought SP101 Ruger 357mag great little mag! I got tired of looking at all my large frame mags collect dust in my safe!! I decided to buy one I could carry!! Gun has power, if needed. Good close range accuracy, if needed! And very good concealment!!! Great all around gun to enjoy and appreciate daily!!
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I'd go with a 41 mag, it's accurate, easy to load and easy on the wrist. The 41 will do everything a 44 will. IMO! I have shot more 41 than anything just because it feels right! Good Luck BHK
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The 41 will do everything a 44 will. IMO!


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I was thinking that too, lol.
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Default The choice depends upon what you will use it for

You said you wanted knock down power but did not specify the use. For a home defense gun, the 44 mag is not practical unless you live way out in the country. The bullet will penetrate walls and could kill a neighbor. The 357 mag is enough for stopping most animals you are likely to encounter, will stop a 2 legged one too, but again, it can and will penetrate walls. Load either with specials instead of mags, you now have a very nice home defense gun. However, with the current ammo situation, neither is a good choice - at least not at any of the gun stores I have been to recently. The only large bore ammo I have found on the shelf (and at that, it was a Wally World), is 45 colt (not ACP). They had Winchester cowboy loads and PDX defense loads. No other handgun ammo was available. The salesman said their ammo is gone within 20 minites of when they bring it out to stock. The 45 colt is usually on the shelf for a few days.
What other choices? .41 mag is excellent for hunting and SD. 45 ACP is also a good SD round (and yes, SW makes a nice revolver for this). Charter Arms has a .40SW revolver - a little hard to reload though as it does not use moon clips.
Personally, for SD or HD revolver, I would go with a 38 spl or 45 acp. For a trail gun, a .357 or .44 or .45 in a SA revolver. For a hiking gun, it would either be a .357 or .45 acp in a DA/SA revolver, depending upon where I was hiking (we only predator I would encounter around here, other than people, is a black bear or mountain lion). Finally, in the northern woods, where you may encounter a grizzly, I would carry a 45/70 or 450 marlin lever action - a revolver that is practical to shoot will only make them mad (you would need a 454, 460, 480, or 500 revolver and had better be a damm good shot when your adrenaline is pumping).
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You said you wanted knock down power but did not specify the use. For a home defense gun, the 44 mag is not practical unless you live way out in the country. The bullet will penetrate walls and could kill a neighbor. The 357 mag is enough for stopping most animals you are likely to encounter, will stop a 2 legged one too, but again, it can and will penetrate walls. Load either with specials instead of mags, you now have a very nice home defense gun. However, with the current ammo situation, neither is a good choice - at least not at any of the gun stores I have been to recently. The only large bore ammo I have found on the shelf (and at that, it was a Wally World), is 45 colt (not ACP). They had Winchester cowboy loads and PDX defense loads. No other handgun ammo was available. The salesman said their ammo is gone within 20 minites of when they bring it out to stock. The 45 colt is usually on the shelf for a few days.
What other choices? .41 mag is excellent for hunting and SD. 45 ACP is also a good SD round (and yes, SW makes a nice revolver for this). Charter Arms has a .40SW revolver - a little hard to reload though as it does not use moon clips.
Personally, for SD or HD revolver, I would go with a 38 spl or 45 acp. For a trail gun, a .357 or .44 or .45 in a SA revolver. For a hiking gun, it would either be a .357 or .45 acp in a DA/SA revolver, depending upon where I was hiking (we only predator I would encounter around here, other than people, is a black bear or mountain lion). Finally, in the northern woods, where you may encounter a grizzly, I would carry a 45/70 or 450 marlin lever action - a revolver that is practical to shoot will only make them mad (you would need a 454, 460, 480, or 500 revolver and had better be a damm good shot when your adrenaline is pumping).
It's kind of funny that 357 mag ammo is all I have purchased since the ammo shortage that was a decent price. I have no problem finding PPU or PMC 357 ammo for under $20 a box. Since you don't own a 357 mag you are only window shopping. When window shopping you tend to remember the ridiculous. PPU 357 mag ammo is very good ammo. It's velocity compares well with the boutique brands that go for $50 for a box of 50.
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I have three Smith 44's and want to sell the 6". I have a 4" to carry and a Stealth Hunter with a 2x7 Burris for longer range stuff. The advantage of the 44 is how many different weight bullets you can shoot.
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I always hear people make the synopsis that a .44 mag will over penetrate and then state no facts or examples, and just leave it at that.In fact there are many good defensive loads for the .44 mag with different bullet weights, charges and bullet styles that will not penetrate any more than a .357 magnum.Now if all you know about is an FMJ 240 grain 44 mag, then I see where one would get that idea, but there are so many better options for a .44 mag such as a good 180 grain hollow point bullet, it might usually have more energy than a .357, but you also have to remember that the surface area of an expanded .44 mag is far greater than a .357, which will cause more drag, slowing the bullet down at a similar rate to a lighter .357 mag bullet.
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I always hear people make the synopsis that a .44 mag will over penetrate and then state no facts or examples, and just leave it at that.In fact there are many good defensive loads for the .44 mag with different bullet weights, charges and bullet styles that will not penetrate any more than a .357 magnum.Now if all you know about is an FMJ 240 grain 44 mag, then I see where one would get that idea, but there are so many better options for a .44 mag such as a good 180 grain hollow point bullet, it might usually have more energy than a .357, but you also have to remember that the surface area of an expanded .44 mag is far greater than a .357, which will cause more drag, slowing the bullet down at a similar rate to a lighter .357 mag bullet.
You"re dead on.Even if you compare the same weight bullet .357-180 gr.vs 44m 180 gr.I think the 44m is a more desirable defensive round.(Brass Fetcher.com)44 180xtp-1571fps-12.4"pen.Exp. .434 vs .357 180bla.tal.1092fps 13.9"pen.Exp..314
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Even 357 can have over penetration, especially the 158 grain (even jhp), its all about propper ammo selection, the 44 mag does have more versatility over the 357. There is no arguing that fact.
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