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Old 05-07-2013, 05:23 AM   #51
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357, with federal 125gr jhp for human defense.
44 fmj for animal defense.

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Old 05-07-2013, 05:29 AM   #52
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None of the above, bostonscottkelly. Look into a S&W .500 Magnum. It'll put that exclamation point behind the DRT that you're obviously looking for.

Triggerjob, all this talk about "bullits" is making me lust after a Python like the one McQueen carried.

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357, with federal 125gr jhp for human defense.
44 fmj for animal defense.
Why would you chose a 44 FMJ for animal defense?

For something that can kill you, depending on the animal, I would chose a hard cast lead bullet, or a premium soft point or hollow-point over any kind of FMJ. Unless it be something like a 600 nitro for Elephants.
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None of the above, bostonscottkelly. Look into a S&W .500 Magnum. It'll put that exclamation point behind the DRT that you're obviously looking for.

Triggerjob, all this talk about "bullits" is making me lust after a Python like the one McQueen carried.
+1 on the 500. If you're going big, get the biggest
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Go with the .357.

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Heavy jacked ammunition is chosen for deep penetration on heavy or dangerous game. Hollow points etc. fail to penetrate rib bones etc. and do not reach vital organs.

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Heavy jacked ammunition is chosen for deep penetration on heavy or dangerous game. Hollow points etc. fail to penetrate rib bones etc. and do not reach vital organs.
Yep, thats why I said 'depending' on the animal. A full metal jacket wouldnt be my first choice for a brown bear or a lion or jaguar.
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An FMJ and HP in .44 magnum are not all that different when they hit an animal because the sheer energy flattens both pretty well although you will get a slight deeper penetration with an FMJ, i'd feel comfortable with both to defend against any animal EXCEPT great bears (brown, grizzly, kodiak etc), in that case you definitely need hardcast ammo that will not flatten and ricochet off a rib because their ribs are about as tough as soft body armor.

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I own mutiples of both. I sometimes carry a 4 inch 629 loaded with heavy 44 specials. There is only one load that has been uncomfortable for me to shoot. That was a full on mag load with 310 XTP that I loaded up for hunting. I was shooting it out of a 7 1/2 inch New Super Blackhawk. That was punishing. But when I shoot a 240 grain full powered magnum it is no problem. I can shoot 50 of those without a problem. I also have an older 6 inch 586. That is a 357. I shoot that with the most powerful load with no problem at all. There is no comparison between 357 and 44 mag. It is like comparing a VW Bug with a Wells Fargo Armored Truck! Anyone that doesn't think so has never shot a 310 grain load.

If you decide to buy a 44 you should invest is a simple reloading kit. You could get a Lee single stage press and all the stuff you need to get started for a minimal amount. Then you could experiment with different loads. If you shoot a lot of 44 mag, the equipment will pay for itself pretty fast. The same thing goes for 45 Colt. Those can be expensive to buy new. Full powered stuff will run close to $1 a shot. I am not talking about the soft shooting cowboy loads.

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41 magnum is my choice...
I like your style, That was John Wesley Hardins preferred caliber , The deadliest gunslinger in all of the wild west.... Dont ask, for some reason im way more interested in the old west/1860s, than a person should be...
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