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MattyT 07-11-2013 03:33 PM

.357 reloads
 
I've been reloading 38 spl for a little while now. I've used 800x powder since it came recommended from a friend. I'm wanting to start loading .357 as well. Can I load 357's with 800x? What about with small pistol primers? I guess I'm looking for a powder that can be used in both 38 and 357 if its possible. Also, which kind of primer should be used? Thanks

gr8oldguy 07-11-2013 03:48 PM

You might want to take a look at Bullseye. I use it for .38 and .357. That's if you can find it of it these days. good luck

hardluk1 07-11-2013 04:13 PM

Its not a good powder for 357 or 38sp. very slow low powerd loads in 38sp. Find someone that loads smaller shotgun and try for a trade to something here- http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

You know you could have looked around your self to see how pratical it is to try to use the 800x.

Bob Wright 07-11-2013 05:58 PM

My favorite for both .38 Special and .357 Magnum, as well as .44 Special and more, has become Hodgdon's HS-6.

It's extremely versitle.

Bob WRight

aandabooks 07-11-2013 06:54 PM

I use AA#5 in .38 and .44 special. AA#9 in the magnum loads. I use Bullseye for other calibers but it is too fast a burn rate. Also leaves you open to double charging a case.

Olympus 07-11-2013 07:53 PM

I use Power Pistol for my hot 357 load.

But if you want a tried and true recipe for 38 Special, you want 3.0gr of Bullseye. That's a kitty-cat load that is favored by a lot of competition shooters. Burn up that 800x and start buying Bullseye!

coonbait 07-11-2013 10:03 PM

if you only want to use one powder for both rounds I would go with unique

Overkill0084 07-11-2013 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MattyT (Post 1301493)
I've been reloading 38 spl for a little while now. I've used 800x powder since it came recommended from a friend. I'm wanting to start loading .357 as well. Can I load 357's with 800x? What about with small pistol primers? I guess I'm looking for a powder that can be used in both 38 and 357 if its possible. Also, which kind of primer should be used? Thanks

At first glance (i've not tried it) 800X doesn't seem like an especially good powder for either. At least if one judges by the Hodgden guide.
If you wish to stay in the Hodgden/IMR/Winchester powder family, IMHO you will be better served with either HP38/Win231(same stuff different packaging) or HS6. I use HS-6 for warmish to hot 9mm & .45 acp loads.

You might also want to consider Accurate #5 or #7. I use #5 for .357 (mid to low power), & .40 S&W. I haven't had a need to try it in .38 special, but I suspect it would do nicely.

Alliant: I will second the Unique Recommendation as well. It works well in most pistol calibers. I use in in 9 mm, .38 special & .45 acp. For full strength .357 I prefer 2400, however. For mildish loads, Bullseye will do nicely, though it's bit peaky for my taste when you wish to turn up the heat. My Dad reloaded just about everything handgun for decades with just these three Alliant (Hercules back when) powders. They are a bit dirtier than newer formulas, but they work well. It's been my observation that they tend to be a bit cheaper than many competitors.

http://www.accuratepowder.com/load-data/
http://www.alliantpowder.com/resources/catalog/alliantpowder-reloadersguide/

Primers: Depends on who you believe. I've been told and I've read that Magnum primers are only really necessary for Hard to ignite ball powders (Win 296 & H110 for example) I've not had any ignition issues with any of the powders I use when using standard SP primers.
Note: this is a deviation from published data. Use proper load development to determine what works well for you & yours.

Rick1967 07-11-2013 11:53 PM

Titegroup is a great powder. I use it in every pistol cartridge I reload. It requires a low weight charge. So it goes a long way. And it can be tailored to how you like to shoot. Light to heavy no problem. As far as primers, I use magnum primers in everything. I shoot so many calibers it is just simpler to use magnums than to try to keep every kind of primer in stock.

robocop10mm 07-12-2013 02:25 AM

You will be hard pressed to find one powder that is "ideal" for both cartridges. The .38 is easy to load for. Red Dot and W-231 are my current "go to" powders. The.357 is a different animal IF you want to extract any where near the potential performance of the original Magnum. As long as you are content with 1200 FPS and a 158 gr bullet, many different powders will suffice. If you want to push to the high side of 1400 you will need something like W-296/H110 (same powder) and a small pistol Magnum primer.


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