[JTJ]

I dont believe H&R makes handguns any longer. They are now part of Marlin and all I see are single shot rifles and some shotguns.
http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/default.asp

[Hendoproof]

I have another question...

What are your takes on the models we've been talking about but in a shorter barrel / snub nose version? Good for learning on or should I stick with at least the 4" barrel first? Thanks

[onenut58]

Why dont you surf through guns of america, guns international. Shooters exchange. Auction sites gunbroker auction arms and you can find a k-22 for less than 700.The ruger you want is going to take awhile to get because of rugers huge back log. They got hit hard for those models and there new 1911 along with record sales this year on all there models.With the current administration in office and the new elections comming up people are making a rush on guns again.

[onenut58]

Barrel length has no bearing on accuracy.A bullet flys straight out of any length tube. But short barrels make for short sight pictures.The gun is also lighter and balances different. With practice a snub barreled gun can be shot as accurately as a long barrel. For a new shooter a longer barrel is way easier to master.Short barrels are not as powerful as longer barrels and there for the bullet has more drop at distance.So being able to hit with a less than four inch barrel takes a lot of practice and different hold over on targets.

[Donn]

Ruger Single-Six .22lr/.22mag convertible.

[Hendoproof]

Originally Posted by onenut58

Barrel length has no bearing on accuracy.A bullet flys straight out of any length tube. But short barrels make for short sight pictures.The gun is also lighter and balances different. With practice a snub barreled gun can be shot as accurately as a long barrel. For a new shooter a longer barrel is way easier to master.Short barrels are not as powerful as longer barrels and there for the bullet has more drop at distance.So being able to hit with a less than four inch barrel takes a lot of practice and different hold over on targets.

I think I'll be sticking with the longer barrels. It'll be easier for more people thanks.

And Donn, I've looked at them, but I wanted something in double action

[jjfuller1]

H & R are older as i said. but for 200 or so you get a great plinker. ive had no problems with mine. and its old as dirt. shoots fine. leaves lots of extra money for ammo. or a second pistol

[ScottA]

Originally Posted by Hendoproof

S&W's are very nice from what I'm seeing, but they are a bit out of my price range. However, I seem to be looking into spending about $500... the way I see it usually is if I'm spending that much already, why not just throw in $200 more and get the nicer S&W. Right now from what I've seen its between a Pathfinder in .22lr or go big and get the S&W for about $700. You're definitely right about the SP101's being in short supply. Everywhere I've looked they're out of stock. The only thing I kind of don't like is sights on the SP101.

Payday is tomorrow... already spent the check..

Well that just ruins it. The S&W 17 was my second gun. That is one I'll never get rid of. I'm thinking about a trigger job on it and lighten it up a bit.

It is excellent.

[ScottA]

Originally Posted by Hendoproof

I have another question...

What are your takes on the models we've been talking about but in a shorter barrel / snub nose version? Good for learning on or should I stick with at least the 4" barrel first? Thanks

I am hard pressed to come up with a good reason for a snubbie .22lr. I doubt I would ever buy one. I would go with 4" at least.

[phildenton]

A snubbie would fit well in a pocket or an ankle holster, as a backup gun or if circumstances require deep concealment.

I have a 22lr beretta 21a just for such times