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Old 05-08-2014, 11:45 AM   #11
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I would buy the Remington ammo. 125 gr SP ammo usually shoots good. If the Remington's shoot good get some Fiocchi 125 gr ammo. No, you will not get the 1,700 fps advertised on the box, not even with a rifle but they are still faster than all but a few boutique brands.

I would check the cylinder gap on your pistol. My 357 mag pistols get shot quite a bit, one of them is over 30 years old, my 44 mag is getting close to 30. None of them have a ridge wore in the forcing cone. I have had the forcing cone get loose on a ruger but never any damage.

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The flame that erupts from the cylinder gap on revolvers is akin to a cutting tourch. I can attest to the cutting power of the cylinder flash as I carry a tattoo from a S&W Model 19-3 on my left index finger from a malfunction with .357 mag loads circa 1974. The hotter loads, regardless of weight, will accelerate the cutting on your revolver, so I would shoot it and enjoy it till it needs attention.
Totally true. It also illustrates a much understated point about revolver safety. People think revolvers are naturally safer for the shooter, but they can burn you in a way no modern semi-auto will. There was a guy who sued S&W several years ago. He was shooting a .460 S&W holding his supporting hand to the cylinder gap. His thumb got ripped off clean. But that's another story, pardon the digression.
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I would buy the Remington ammo. 125 gr SP ammo usually shoots good. If the Remington's shoot good get some Fiocchi 125 gr ammo. No, you will not get the 1,700 fps advertised on the box, not even with a rifle but they are still faster than all but a few boutique brands.

I would check the cylinder gap on your pistol. My 357 mag pistols get shot quite a bit, one of them is over 30 years old, my 44 mag is getting close to 30. None of them have a ridge wore in the forcing cone. I have had the forcing cone get loose on a ruger but never any damage.
the gap is close, with it normal or full lockup a light can barely be seen thru the cone and cylinder area.thanks
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FWIW I run 31.5 gr of WW296 with a 180 gr JHP in .44 mag.............you bet your arse even with a hefty crimp there's gonna be flame cutting.

It only goes so far though. Dunno what % is caused by flame and what % is caused by particle impingement.

Had a minty 629-3 6" shot maybe 100 or so of my hot 180s and yeah a line appeared. Put it up for sale (wanted a 4" instead ) and some d*ckweed claims the gun has had the crap shot out of it, due to the flame cut. Told him it didn't have it before, but got that in not too many rounds and he flat out in the shop calls me a liar.

I asked if he ever shot AA9, WW296 or H110 with light bullets at max+ charge and he said no.
Kinda tore him a new arse after that

Light bullets can cause a problem with certain propellants. They don't have enough "back pressure" to get the powder to burn as well as it should (and why a hefty crimp is needed if one does such loads, and why some loading manuals don't recommend such powders with lighter bullet weights).

So the problem isn't due to shooting light bullets alone, but light bullets can be part of the flame cut equation.

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Topstrap cutting isn't the problem, even though it's the more obvious change when shooting such loads. Forcing cone erosion is the biggie.

My old coworker probably has 10+K through his M29, most of it hot 180 loads............it spits crap everywhere, rather nasty indoors as crud bounces off the partitions. It needs a new bbl bad, and has needed one for some time. Still goes bang and puts them on target but you sure don't want to stand off to the side of him.



Some might condemn him (and others) for shooting such loads.............but the way I look at it, his gun, and yeah it's got serious wear (is fixable) and he's had a freakin' blast (no pun intended) wearing that barrel out!

It's a .44 magnum, and he shoots it as a magnum.

Good for him!

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