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Old 02-21-2014, 05:35 AM   #21
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Probable Cause for a stop is NOT the same a Probable Cause for a search. Just because you fail to signal a lane change does not give an officer PC to search your vehicle.
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Old 02-21-2014, 05:39 AM   #22
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The tags on your license plate appeared damaged and could be an indication they were stolen so your vehicle must be towed to impound. This doesn't necessarily give him probable cause to search your vehicle but to insure you don't loose any valuables he was simply doing an inventory.



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Wrong. The VIN is placed in a public place to verify the identity of a vehicle. If the VIN is removed, yeah the impound yard is the next stop. There are "confidential" VIN's in the vehicle that Auto Theft Detectives are trained on. They can put the car on a lift and find them, verifying the ID of the vehicle. Possession of altered ID numbers is an offense in Texas. A VIN is an ID number.
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first of all, he can't go through your vehicle without your permission, probable cause or a search warrant. i have nothing illegal to hide, but anytime someone wants to search my vehicle or home, they will need to secure a search warrant first. simply because i believe in my rights and if they are sure i have something illegal, then they will need to back up thst suspicion with a warrant.
Not true. All that is necessary for a Frisk of the vehicle is a reasonable suspicion that A) you are armed and B) you are likely to use the weapon against the officer. See Terry v Ohio
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I had shoulder surgery once and was prescribed some narcotic pain killers. I would take them with me in the original pill bottle to take as prescribed. One day by accident I left the bottle at home. I got pulled over for speeding and apparently I had dropped one of my pills on the floor. The officer saw it and used it as probable cause. Because it was a narcotic and I didn't have the bottle I was arrested.
It got thrown out when I they found that I indeed did have a prescription but it was a ****ty experience. That pill could have been a vitamin for all he knew when it was sitting on my floor board.

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I asked an under cover detective once about carry laws in Texas. He said you can have one concealed in your vehicle, home, and place of business. As long as you are not committing any crimes or breaking the law you are fine. I also asked him "what if I get pulled over and they want to search my truck" he replied and said to tell them that i am sorry officer but I am in a hurry to get home. He said usually they will be pretty Cool about that. he talked about the castle doctrine a little after everything was said, but all this was told to me by a cop.
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I had shoulder surgery once and was prescribed some narcotic pain killers. I would take them with me in the original pill bottle to take as prescribed. One day by accident I left the bottle at home. I got pulled over for speeding and apparently I had dropped one of my pills on the floor. The officer saw it and used it as probable cause. Because it was a narcotic and I didn't have the bottle I was arrested.
It got thrown out when I they found that I indeed did have a prescription but it was a ****ty experience. That pill could have been a vitamin for all he knew when it was sitting on my floor board.
not true all narcotics have a distinct color or stamping for easy identification by sight. it is illegal for a vitamin or non-narcotic to use those distinctions. this is done for easy identification to reduce medication errors. its not possible for it to be mistaken for a vitamin.

seeing the loose pill was pc to investigate further which didupon close examination be your prescription.
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