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01-23-2013, 05:38 PM
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Oregon Militia
I there anyone connected with the Militia in the Portland area. I would like to get involved but the only meet and greets seem to be out in eastern OR.
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01-29-2013, 04:51 PM
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Depends on your definition of "militia." You may want to become familiar with Oregon Revised Statutes; 166.660 Unlawful paramilitary activity. If you are looking for meeting up with shooters and militia in the classic sense (we are all militia) look for gun clubs and ranges and get to know folks.
166.660 Unlawful paramilitary activity. (1) A person commits the crime of unlawful paramilitary activity if the person:
(b) Assembles with one or more other persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons with the intent to unlawfully employ such firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique in a civil disorder.
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01-29-2013, 05:02 PM
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To follow up, in my estimation I think this may not be in compliance with the US First Amendment, right of assembly, but I'm not a lawyer or constitutional expert, and don't know if it's been challenged.
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01-29-2013, 09:08 PM
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So it is illegal according to intent? Who determines the intent? I am looking to generate what I refer to as "Local Tactical Support" where I and say 5 others in my neighborhood could train for different situations, and then in a emergency situation know that we can depend on each other.
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02-17-2013, 02:25 AM
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Sounds like neighbors getting together to protect each other from crime.
Unlawful, Heck NO. Smart and responsible? Heck YES.
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02-17-2013, 04:21 AM
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The term "Militia" scares some people. I prefer the term "Mutual Assistance Group or MAG".
Personally, I'd rather have a loose knit group of friends and neighbors.
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02-17-2013, 09:39 AM
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MAG huh ok
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03-09-2013, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by GREGULON
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I'm in the Portland area and would like to hang out with like minded shooters. I did something similar down in so cal before I moved state. Ended up with 60-80 people hitting the desert every 3 months for camping shooting etc... Had a blast but it was viewed as a militia which can sometimes create negative connotations. The BLM guys regularly gave us a hard time.
I'm in SW portland now days and regular shooting get togethers where we can share knowledge and experience on different topics such as marksmanship, hunting and woodsman skills can only be a good thing as long as its done safely.
I'm in. Anyone else?
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03-10-2013, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by britishbulldog
I'm in. Anyone else?
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I wouldn't mind doing a camping/shooting trip like that. I live in salem.
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03-10-2013, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pioneer461
To follow up, in my estimation I think this may not be in compliance with the US First Amendment, right of assembly, but I'm not a lawyer or constitutional expert, and don't know if it's been challenged.
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I believe this might be the key phrase in the section of law quoted:
166.660 Unlawful paramilitary activity. (1) A person commits the crime of unlawful paramilitary activity if the person:
(b) Assembles with one or more other persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons "with the intent to unlawfully employ such firearm, explosive or incendiary device or technique in a civil disorder."
Otherwise Clint and Heidi Smith at Thunder Ranch in Oregon would be in violation of the law.
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Last edited by DFlynt; 03-10-2013 at 10:23 PM.
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