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Old 05-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #81
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Well, it may be a little late in the thread to ask, but:

Why is the 9mm considered by whom, to be

"such a bad SD round" ?

This question is like asking someone

"Why are you gay?" when they're not.

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Probably said already but **** placement is far more critical the size of the round.

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Probably said already but **** placement is far more critical the size of the round.
Regardless, it doesn't address the topic of the thread. You

could kill somebody instantly will a well-placed toothpick

fired from an airhose attachment, with "proper placement", and

it has absolutely no bearing on whether toothpicks would be

good self-defense rounds.

IMHO, in this imperfect world, the 9mm may be one of the

perfect SD rounds.

With less penetration, range, and size, than long and

intermediate rifle cartridges, and larger diameter than most.

Yet high capacity mags, to stand off multiple goblins at close

quarters.


Have we, with our .45ACPs, really become so jaded as to

either not recognize, or forget the 9mm's potential?
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Considered by whom???? a writer for some gun rag???

Every major military force in the free world issues the 9MM as "standard" Every single one!!!

Most police in the free world issue the 9MM as standard.

It's interesting to note that none of the "knock 'em down, gut 'em out and hang 'em up super dooper "man stoppers" like the .40, 10MM and .45 ACP is issued by any military force in the entire free world.

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Considered by whom???? a writer for some gun rag???

Every major military force in the free world issues the 9MM as "standard" Every single one!!!

Most police in the free world issue the 9MM as standard.

It's interesting to note that none of the "knock 'em down, gut 'em out and hang 'em up super dooper "man stoppers" like the .40, 10MM and .45 ACP is issued by any military force in the entire free world.
There are some Marine Corps units that use Kimber .45's. A grand total of 187 of 'em.
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There are some Marine Corps units that use Kimber .45's. A grand total of 187 of 'em.
True. But that's not "standard issue."

There are also some specops units that issue silenced Ruger .22LRs.
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I think anybody who says the 9mm is not effective

has no real shooting experience. Punching paper doesn't

provide all the answers, and it's easy to get caught up

in urban legend mongering at a local bar, or hanging

with a bunch of wannabes...

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A lot of old-timers had their first experience with a handgun in the military service, including me. There we got the propaganda about the 1911 being the "finest fighting tool in the world". And for a while I was convinced. But after decades of buying, shooting, and carrying a large variety of handguns, I have learned that the most important factor is the guy doing the shooting and not the make, model, caliber of the gun. Hitting some perp in the elbow with a .45 will NOT produce better results than hitting him in the Aorta with a 9MM. I personally lean toward .40 S&W, but also have some .45 ACP, .45 Colt ("Long Colt"), .44 Spl, .44 Mag, .41 Mag, evan the lowly .38 Spl handguns, and carry what I consider to be the best fit for where I'm going and what I plan to do. But the 9MM, when properly applied (including hitting a vital spot), is plenty of "stopping power".

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I too wud like to know by WHO
BUT mostly i'd like to know why we keep "answering" the same basic tired ole question

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I too wud like to know by WHO
BUT mostly i'd like to know why we keep "answering" the same basic tired ole question
I guess because new members often have the same stuff to try to resolve in their minds. So, maybe there ought to be something like a list of stuff for new people to read before getting into discussions that have been done before.
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