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Old 06-18-2013, 10:33 PM   #71
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Glock 19 or 17.
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Well. Thanks for all the advise and good discussion. Ive decided to get the beretta px4 storm full size. Can order extra magazines that hold 20.

My bug out situation is a little on the extreme side and wanted a gun that u can grab and go and thats all u have time for. I know being prepared is the best bet but ya never know what will happen.

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Thank you very much for thoroughly explaining the revolver thing too!
He may have "explained" it but that doesn't make it accurate. I believe someone already gave logical counter arguments for his main points.

I'm not saying a revolver is better than a semi-auto, or vice versa. I'm simply saying neither is obsolete and neither should be discredited for any reason.
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He may have "explained" it but that doesn't make it accurate. I believe someone already gave logical counter arguments for his main points.

I'm not saying a revolver is better than a semi-auto, or vice versa. I'm simply saying neither is obsolete and neither should be discredited for any reason.
And neither am I sir
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And neither am I sir
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Man, does the semiautomatic vs revolver argument pop up everywhere?

Like caliber vs capacity, it's all subjective and needs are unpredictable.

It's all taste and preference, nothing more, factually!

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I just wanna go on record and say I won't attest to that. When I bought my S&W 66-2 (used, of course) we put 100 rounds of .38 Special through it in the first range trip, without any issues or difficulties extracting the spent cases. It's even a 2.5" barrel, which means it doesn't have a full length ejector rod. Still no issues.

Maybe you just need to use cleaner burning powder.
I have a variety of Colt revolvers (2 SAA, 3 Trooper, 1 Cobra) and the only time extraction empty cases has been an issue has been with thin walled .45 LC cartridges loaded a touch too hot.

I would say that using SAA revolvers for self defense isn't exactly "keeping up with the times", but to each his own.

I've never had a problem with Ruger .357 revolvers owned by friends.

Perhaps you have a tight tolerance target revolver, in which case filthy ammo might be a problem. Apart from that, if it were me I would want to have a competent gunsmith go over the piece if that happened.
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Thanks man! I don't understand how you can say that 9mm is not a great survival round? Just because it doesn't have as much boom as your .40 doesn't mean it won't stop whatever is intended to stop! Thank you very much for thoroughly explaining the revolver thing too!
Anybody who thinks that there's all that much difference between 9MM, .40S&W, and .45 ACP really needs to see the ballistics gelatin after it's been shot with the various calibers commonly used in defensive handguns. Apart from expensive and exotic ammunition, there's not a dime's worth of difference between the three.

Use whatever you like, but 9MM is generally cheaper, more readily available, and easier to control than handguns chambered for larger and slightly more powerful calibers. On top of that 9MM is lighter and you can fit more bullets into a magazine of a given size. That makes the choice pretty easy for me.

All handgun ammunition, apart from hunting ammunition, is pretty weak in comparison to rifle and shotgun ammunition.

If a 9MM won't kill it, you probably need a rifle or shotgun.
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Glock 17/19/34 with high cap mags. 33 BBs in a reliable gun

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Go to handgun this, good for short or long range.

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