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Old 07-30-2011, 01:50 AM   #21
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I think that there's plenty of other things that people don't like about GLOCKS (just off of the top of my head):
  • No external safeties (and no the trigger doesn't count)
  • You have to pull the trigger when breaking down the gun
  • The rear site
  • The don't fit some people's hands very well
  • They're not aimed as naturally as other designs
  • They're too light (increase perceived recoil)
  • They're a "Me-too" gun
  • GLOCK fan-boys
The above is not meant as a bash, simply as a response to the concept that the only knock on GLOCKS is "ugly and bulky".
i will add way undersupported chamber meaning if your a reloader the glock 45 ruins brass by bulging the cases. a bulged case is a sign of overpressure so instead of fixing the problem glock introduced the 45gap...

there is also a term for the inherent unsafeness of the gun its called "glock leg"

the width of the slide makes it harder to conceal for ccw

finally on a personal note i just cannot bring myself to give any money to gaston glock.

if your a person that adores em more for you but i cant stand them.
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  • GLOCK fan-boys
Glad to see i'm not the only one on this one
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know you guy's get this question a lot but what is the most reliable semi auto pistol as far as F.T.F and F.T.E for under or around $500 i've been seriously leaning toward the SIG P250 for it's innovative design and SIG'S overall rep but with the state this country is in i would like to have a sturdy reliable pistol for survival purposes MUCH APPRECIATED


oh and accuracy would of course be an issue as well
I have discussed this issue at length with many folks that have a lot of rounds of ammo sent downrange, many of them bet their bacon on their equipment daily(no parking ticket writers, with all due respect). The general consensus is that there are three guns that any of us would (only if we absolutely had to) feel 100% comfortable taking out of a box brand new, loading it with any quality commercial ammo and taking it to a gun fight knowing that they will always work as advertised out of the box.

Glock, SIG and HK.
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A vintage P35 Browning Hi-Power:

Amen...if you can find one that lands near that $500 price point.

CZ's offer a lot of the same qualities at a more competitive price, but the BHP might be my favorite handgun at the moment. I was fortunate enough to see a $500 BHP cross my path at an opportune moment.

These are probably my two best HG purchases...6 mags for each (because they're keepers), and less than $1200 total into the pair and their mags, grips, a holster for each, etc:

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I appreciate the info. but since your reply had somewhat of a sarcastic tone [or maybe i'm just feeling a little defensive] i'll explain why i feel the design is innovative.

1. the trigger is the gun

2. it is a modular pistol that allows the shooter to change caliber and grip size at will. One gun that adapts to perfectly fit any individual’s hand size, shooting style, and purpose.

and thats something that only PLASTIC [polymer] guns can do.

but like i said thanks for the comment
Take this for what it's worth...I like Sigs, a lot. And I'm not a huge fan of Glock. I own a Sig P226 and no Glocks. But if I was intent on adding a polymer handgun that could shoot multiple calibers, Glock would be the clear winner in both price and performance. A Glock 23 (40sw compact) can easily be converted to 9mm or 357sig with a $100 Lone Wolf conversion barrel.

I don't think the Sig P250 can be converted as affordably, nor do I believe it's nearly as good of a gun as the Glock. Check out Lone Wolf's inventory of Glock conversion barrels...you can convert to some pretty diverse rounds from a Glock (and affordably), which I think is pretty cool.

Just my own modest perspective on this matter.
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...finally on a personal note i just cannot bring myself to give any money to gaston glock...
I hear you there! That guy rubs me the wrong way but I am a Glock fan, once you own one it's hard not to be. I grew up with and still love older classic guns but have to admit the Glock should be on anyone's short list when buying a defensive pistol. I still take my other pistols out to the range but the 40S&W Glock is now my go to weapon.
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Glock,Glock, or a Glock is the only way to go. Only 33 moving parts, parts are the easiest to get, and they're everywhere and cheap ($$) too.

They can be dry fired all day. They will fire will no lube or grease. You can drop em, throw em, run over em, and they'll still work like out of the box.

Glock was made for combat. It was made to arm a army. Nothing eles will do if you're serious about a true combat hand gun. .45 acp I would recommend since it will readily easy to get. .40 is a yuppie round and 9mm is for soft euros.

On the other hand, a beauty of a gun like this, I would be terrified of a micron of a sand particle would jam it up soo fast you would never get 1 shot off.

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Glock,Glock, or a Glock is the only way to go. Only 33 moving parts, parts are the easiest to get, and they're everywhere and cheap ($$) too.

They can be dry fired all day. They will fire will no lube or grease. You can drop em, throw em, run over em, and they'll still work like out of the box.

Glock was made for combat. It was made to arm a army. Nothing eles will do if you're serious about a true combat hand gun. .45 acp I would recommend since it will readily easy to get. .40 is a yuppie round and 9mm is for soft euros.

On the other hand, a beauty of a gun like this, I would be terrified of a micron of a sand particle would jam it up soo fast you would never get 1 shot off.

Inconceivable. This couldn't possibly be a serious post. No way.
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Inconceivable. This couldn't possibly be a serious post. No way.
Sure it is. Everyone has a right to their own opinion.
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Glock if you don't have much cash...
1911 if you have cash to burn...

Or...there is this option...

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