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Old 11-01-2013, 02:33 AM   #21
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Good choice.
Ok! I'm gonna go look at the local gun shop and see what they have before I buy offline
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:38 AM   #22
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I held out, waited till I found an old S&W 61.

Paid almost what you'd pay for a cheap 1911.

But it's a tough little 22LR. Dependable, solid,

VERY well made.

You will always wind up hating a cheap gun.

You will only hate a quality firearm the day you

pay for it. From there on out, it's all smiles...
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Old 11-01-2013, 02:40 AM   #23
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I held out, waited till I found an old S&W 61.

Paid almost what you'd pay for a cheap 1911.

But it's a tough little 22LR. Dependable, solid,

VERY well made.

You will always wind up hating a cheap gun.

You will only hate a quality firearm the day you

pay for it. From there on out, it's all smiles...
That's what my friend said too!!
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Not a good choice regarding quality, caliber and all.
A 380 cal should be the bare minimum for consideration for a good self defense weapon. Not that it is great but you do have a selection of much better defense rounds available.
As far as 22 cal ammunition being readily available and for a fair price better think again! Of course all the calibers have and are capable of killing an aggressor but you may be the victim in the meantime before they stop the aggression.

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Look at it like this:

You only live once, and you can waste a lot of time

hopping from POS gun to POS gun, or you can be patient,

occasionally get something good, that you will really

appreciate, shoot well, take care of, and pass on to your children.

You really want to pass on a Raven to your son?

Hell no! You want to give him Colt, Smith and Wesson,

Remington, Ruger, CZ, stuff like that.
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Look at it like this:

You only live once, and you can waste a lot of time

hopping from POS gun to POS gun, or you can be patient,

occasionally get something good, that you will really

appreciate, shoot well, take care of, and pass on to your children.

You really want to pass on a Raven to your son?

Hell no! You want to give him Colt, Smith and Wesson,

Remington, Ruger, CZ, stuff like that.
I whole heartedly agree. I'd save 'til next summer if I had to and get a really nice pistol. My first handgun was a Smith and Wesson K17 .22. It set me back some serious lawn mowing money. But it was a truly great .22. I still kick myself for selling it. It is still a sought after target gun. It was my back packing gun, my hiking gun, my first target competition pistol. Nice adjustable sights, smooth double actin trigger and light and crisp single action trigger.

To summarize. It was worth every penny and all of the time I waited.
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Hi-Points are the red-headed step-children of the gun world. They are ugly, get no respect, but no one can really tell you why they aren't worth the money. If you check YouTube, you'll find some very impressive torture tests on the Hi-Points.

I would not get .40 as first caliber. I say this as someone whose first pistol was a .40. It's a great defensive caliber, but 9mm would be less expensive to shoot.
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Hi-Points are the red-headed step-children of the gun world. They are ugly, get no respect, but no one can really tell you why they aren't worth the money. If you check YouTube, you'll find some very impressive torture tests on the Hi-Points.

I would not get .40 as first caliber. I say this as someone whose first pistol was a .40. It's a great defensive caliber, but 9mm would be less expensive to shoot.
Yes they are very ugly and yea the torture test are impressive! I think I'm gonna check out some local pawn shops for used handguns. Just to see if I can find a nice revolver or something
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Agreed! Especially in that brand, blech!

Start with something that has a reliable safety, a full-sized grip, and the ability to empty a whole magazine without a stoppage.

Tell your friend to sell it to someone he does not like.


TBH, my sister had a .25 as her purse pistol for a long time; the last time I cleaned caramel out of the barrel, she agreed to try my Bersa Thunder .380. I miss that Bersa, but I am glad she has a better purse pistol.

The lil Bersa might be a interesting starter; it looks similar to the old James Bond PPK. It has a comfortable grip, though it isn't what I consider "full sized". The price is in the low $300's for the nickel finished model. Magazines are expensive, though.

My first was a .22LR similar to the Ruger Mark series.
i aggree with orange here. My first pistol is a Sig P238 in .380ACP wonderful gun but pricey i got a deal on mine at 619 out the door. New they are round 700$ or 800$ worth evrey penny. only complaint is its a sub compact so very small but i have gotten use to it. id Suggest it for a first carry gun.
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So it's a decent beginners gun? I will probably get the 40 s&w because its my favorite caliber
how many 40 S&W pistols have you shot? ammo can be a bit expensive for practice. and practice is the only method that will make you a better shooter.

i'd go with the 9mm for a first centerfire caliber pistol round, with a heavy emphasis on looking at getting a pistol in 22lr to start learning on pistol shooting fundamentals.
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