 |
|
02-09-2013, 04:16 PM
|
#1
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 428
Liked 60 Times on 49 Posts
Likes Given: 17
|
The USMC's $22.5 Million Dollar Mistake
Frankly, and I hate to put it this way, but I think this mistake is going to cost Marines their lives somewhere.
Here's my take on the USMC's recent pistol decision:
__________________
Member of: NRA (Life); GOA (Life); NSSF; GCA.
Guns and Shooting Videos: VDMA Videos.
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 06:09 PM
|
#2
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Idaho --,Happy
Posts: 1,298
Liked 206 Times on 157 Posts
Likes Given: 24
|
I think the hat, gloves and ear protection was kinda funny.
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 06:27 PM
|
#3
|
|
"If you can't do something smart, do something right."
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Weber County, Utah
Posts: 2,776
Liked 896 Times on 530 Posts
Likes Given: 55
|
FNX? No thanks. They have a bit of a Fisher Price feel that I didn't care for. The tenous link to JMB seemed a bit much.
Sounds to me like he's pissed they didn't come to him first.
The final judges will be the Marines that end up using it. It's a bit early to call it a mistake.
__________________
Cheers,
Greg
NRA Life Member
“At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.” — P.J. O’Rourke
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:15 PM
|
#4
|
|
I'd rather my own son see me die on my feet as a free man, than watch him go, broken, into slavery.
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: West, by God, Funroe,Louisiana
Posts: 14,607
Liked 4750 Times on 2834 Posts
Likes Given: 50
|
I'll tell you the exact same thing I tell everyone else, when they ask my "opinion as a Marine Vet", on the issues of gays and women... And this applies just as well to your opinion on the gun.
It's best for everyone to just shut their holes and leave the warfighting to the warfighters.
They've made their highly informed decision, which, I daresay, is more informed than yours, and I promise you it's not because it "looks cool". There are much cooler looking guns out there.
By the way, Marine Corps Force Recon never stopped using the 1911 to begin with. It's what they've always used, they've fielded and tested others, and it what they've always stuck with. And guess what? That's who's getting this new Colt.
__________________
Come if you must, but only if you must. For the day you find yourself upon my step, will surely be the night you find peace along Jordan's edge.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillement of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause, and lies exhausted on the field of battle... Victorious.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
Last edited by trip286; 02-09-2013 at 07:21 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:19 PM
|
#5
|
|
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Andrews In.
Posts: 46
Liked 11 Times on 11 Posts
|
Just curious, who made this guy an authority on fighting side arms? What are his creditentials? Not saying he's right or wrong just wondering who he is.
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:20 PM
|
#6
|
|
Nom nom nom nom nom
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bennington,VT
Posts: 8,309
Liked 3724 Times on 1817 Posts
Likes Given: 13230
|
Do the Marines actually have many pistol engagements? 
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:21 PM
|
#7
|
|
62 gr Fusion
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 771
Liked 173 Times on 115 Posts
|
I'm honestly surprised with this decision myself. I would think reliabilty and durability come first. 1911 does not scream either IMHO.
__________________
If guns kill people, mine are defective.
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:28 PM
|
#8
|
|
I'd rather my own son see me die on my feet as a free man, than watch him go, broken, into slavery.
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: West, by God, Funroe,Louisiana
Posts: 14,607
Liked 4750 Times on 2834 Posts
Likes Given: 50
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dog2000tj
Do the Marines actually have many pistol engagements? |
Many? No. Still happens? Yes.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squawk
I'm honestly surprised with this decision myself. I would think reliabilty and durability come first. 1911 does not scream either IMHO.
|
As I mentioned, Force Recon, who will be the first to get and field these new pistols, never stopped using theirs. Some of them date from well before WWII, which is the biggest reason they started the search for a new 1911 anyway. After some of their pistols being in service for 70+ years, they're just getting too worn out. I fail to see how a gun that can take up to 70 years of extreme punishment before it becomes unreliable is a bad thing.
__________________
Come if you must, but only if you must. For the day you find yourself upon my step, will surely be the night you find peace along Jordan's edge.
I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillement of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause, and lies exhausted on the field of battle... Victorious.
Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:31 PM
|
#9
|
|
62 gr Fusion
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 771
Liked 173 Times on 115 Posts
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by trip286
Many? No. Still happens? Yes.
As I mentioned, Force Recon, who will be the first to get and field these new pistols, never stopped using theirs. Some of them date from well before WWII, which is the biggest reason they started the search for a new 1911 anyway. After some of their pistols being in service for 70+ years, they're just getting too worn out. I fail to see how a gun that can take up to 70 years of extreme punishment before it becomes unreliable is a bad thing.
|
Touché.
When I think of reliabilty, Glock comes to mind. And I do not own a Glock. Just from what I have read and shot. I'm sure the USMC did their research and made the right choice.
The only thing I really question is capacity. 8 rounds? That is outdated for the theater of War.
__________________
If guns kill people, mine are defective.
|
|
|
|
|
02-09-2013, 07:35 PM
|
#10
|
|
Supporting Member
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: The Peoples Republic of Illinois
Posts: 446
Liked 183 Times on 121 Posts
Likes Given: 48
|
The guy in that video has some kind of strange growth on his face around his chin and the corners of his mouth.
That hat and them glasses are creepy looking too. 
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
 Linear Mode
|
|
|
|
