[dvcguns]

I EDCd both a G21 and G30, and carry a G17 now. The G21 requires an OWB and dressing around. The G30 was no more concealable than the G17 and is horrible to shoot in comparison to the 17 or 21, YMMV

[big shrek]

Originally Posted by Matthew161

Thinking of trading in my glock 38 gap for a 45 acp which kind of glock or 45 acp u think I should get

Dude, why not just do a barrel & mag switch?? ITSA GLOCK!!

You NEVER get good trades, they just don't happen, you always loose unless you really are trading a crap gun for a good gun...
and few dealers ever let one get away with that unless they are stupid, in which case they ain't in biz for long...

[dvcguns]

Outside of the specialty ammo, what is wrong with the gun you have now?

[mt232]

I forgot, you should also look in the Springfield XDs. My cousin carries one and he swears by it, if the 36 was too small those might fit your hand better. Plus they have good deals on them

[stick_man]

OK, I'd say go with the M&P. I have a full size M&P40 and haven't had a minute's issue with it. For me, it has a better feel and a better natural point to it. Interchangeable grip straps also make it easier to fit different size hands. Triggers come a little rough, but smooth out after about 300 shots or you can get an APEX trigger job for under $100 that makes it a very sweet trigger. Another huge pro for the M&P is that they are made in the USA.

[Matthew161]

Nothin is wrong just the cost of ammo is killing me

[robocop10mm]

Originally Posted by mt232

I have a G30 and I love it, I haven't put a ton of rounds through it but I have had no problems so far. I have read a lot of articles and they are very well liked, I have also read about problems with them but as we all know nothing is perfect. I would shoot one first if you can just to see if you like the feel of the smaller frame since it is sub-compact.

But isn't one of their slogans "Glock, Perfection".

[mt232]

Originally Posted by robocop10mm

But isn't one of their slogans "Glock, Perfection".

It is but it comes off too cocky, I like Glocks but they should change it in my opinion. There are a few I've read about failing, their company though. But there are more that I've read about with no problems, I'm not gonna get into what company is better though I like them all 😃

[dvcguns]

Originally Posted by Matthew161

Nothin is wrong just the cost of ammo is killing me

Sounds like you need a Dillon reloader not a new gun.

[NotMormon]

You don't need a .45........you need a 10mm!