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NewGunz 12-14-2010 06:40 PM

Tactical Unload Question
 
Does anyone have Surgical Speed Shooting by Andy Stanford? If so, please turn to the bottom of pages 99 and 100. In this section, Stanford says this:

Quote:

Originally from Surgical Speed Shooting by Andy Stanford, pages 99 & 100

To unload a semiautomatic firearm, most people first remove the magazine, then clear the chamber. The procedure described next, advocated by fellow instructor Greg Hamilton, does double duty. It both clears the weapon for administrative purposes (i.e. when there is no immediate threat) and provides practice at the first half of the standard remedial action procedure, described shortly.

First, pull the slide to the rear and engage the slide stop lever, locking the action open. This will likely require that you shift he gun in your dominant hand in order to put your thumb in a position to push upward on the lever. Next, press the magazine release and use the nondominant hand to remove the magazine from the well. Then, place the magazine under the [pinky] finger of your dominant hand, trapping it between the finger and the frame. Finally, cycle the slide several times to ensure that the chamber is clear.
I just don't understand why they are recommending locking the slide back manually first versus just simply hitting the magazine release. This just seems like an extra step to me that one may not want to do in a dangerous situation. Can any expert chime in? Thanks.

amoroque 12-14-2010 08:40 PM

Hey there, it just so happens that I have this book right here in my office. The way I'm reading this is that he is just simply talking about unloading a firearm and making sure the chamber is clear. If a person were to simply just eject the mag, there is a good chance that a round is still chambered and the gun.

By no means am I an expert, just thought I'd chime in since I had the book right here.

NewGunz 12-15-2010 09:22 PM

Hmmm. It appears as though you're right. It was just odd placement in the book for a simple task like that... It's gotta be linked to something else he's trying to teach. Thanks for replying! Happy to see someone else actually have that book, haha! It has great reviews. I just bought it recently.

Jpyle 12-15-2010 10:06 PM

I was wondering what a tactical unload was...to me that would be a full mag into the bad guy...:D

Squirrel_Slayer 12-15-2010 10:11 PM

I like your thinking Pyle.

NewGunz 12-15-2010 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jpyle (Post 403674)
I was wondering what a tactical unload was...to me that would be a full mag into the bad guy...:D

Well that's the thing... But there must be some reason he's telling people to put the mag in their pinky finger... It has to do with prepping for a reload I think.

Jpyle 12-15-2010 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NewGunz (Post 403680)
Well that's the thing... But there must be some reason he's telling people to put the mag in their pinky finger... It has to do with prepping for a reload I think.

Quite possibly...in a true SD situation you would just drop the mag to the ground but in IDPA or other competitive shooting I do not believe that you can drop a mag with any rounds left in it. So if you need to do a tactical reload you will have to learn to have both mags in your hand while reloading. The pinky grab allows you to retrieve the fresh mag with thumb and forefinger...then drop the slide using the slide release.


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