[Sonic82]

Originally Posted by PrinC

The bull**** started here. So you are saying to know about semi auto pistols you must know what passed military trials? Are you for real, or are you taking a piss while typing?

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[pfev1980]

After a few minutes on google I found where there were a few articles pointing to the fact that sig and beretta were neck and neck for the old service pistol contract in 1990. This is the same contract that was renewed in 2004 again with beretta. That doesn't speak to a lack of quality to Sig, only a quality of service and performance of the M9 from 1990 to 2004. Assuming we will stay with the 9mm round in the future, due to Hague rules on expanding/fragmenting ammo, I'd expect to see the M9 continued to be used. The reason being is part of a bid includes a tech data package and repair parts. We already have both for the M9. This will significantly lower Berettas bid on a proven pistol. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Especially if you can save some money.

[Sonic82]

Originally Posted by pfev1980

Especially if you can save some money.

And now with upcoming Military Budget cuts...I'm sure you're right...the M9 is going to be around for a while. It's a good pistol...I think a .40 S&W would be a better round, still higher capacity and a little more effective...but that ain't gonna happen.

[Phelenwolf]

Originally Posted by Sonic82

Yes...and I was just supporting it by what I have heard and read.....is that ok?

I was just agreeing with you. No harm no foul. You and I both know how these things take on a life of there own sometimes. Plus just to let everyone know I picked up a brand new Sig P229R in 9mm. Here are some pictures. Will post the rest of the family of Sigs that I have later.

[Sonic82]

Originally Posted by Phelenwolf

[B][I][FONT="Comic Sans MS"][SIZE="3"] brand new Sig P229R in 9mm. Here are some pictures.

very nice!!...enjoy it and let us know how it shoots.

[HostileSigPro40]

Originally Posted by Phelenwolf

I was just agreeing with you. No harm no foul. You and I both know how these things take on a life of there own sometimes. Plus just to let everyone know I picked up a brand new Sig P229R in 9mm. Here are some pictures. Will post the rest of the family of Sigs that I have later.

That's one nice SIG you got there bro!! Man I love sigs. If I can come up with the money I'd like to get my hands on the new navy sig, the sig sauer mk25, the navy just approved sig to sell a limited supply of them to the public. Now if I can just order one before there gone! But enjoy that sig an let me know how it is!!

[Phelenwolf]

The M9 was scheduled to be replaced under a United States Army program, the Future Handgun System (FHS), which was merged with the SOF Combat Pistol program to create the Joint Combat Pistol (JCP). In early 2006, the JCP was renamed Combat Pistol (CP), and the number of pistols to be bought was drastically cut back. The joint U.S. Army/Air Force Modular Handgun System could select a commercial off-the-shelf handgun to replace the M9 pistol in Fiscal Year 2011–12 if budget funds allows the implementation of the study.


I read this last night and forgot to post it. If the Sig narrowly lost to the M9, it should be the next service pistol for the armed forces IF they do not go back to the 1911 design. Yet with all the great high capacity .45ACP's on the market we may see the 1911 come back or might even see the XD45 or S&W M&P or a high capacity 1911 as are next service pistol, IF our service men and women could only be so lucky!!

Here is the like if you would like to read it.

Beretta M9 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Phelenwolf]

Thank, guy. I picked it up for $550.

[pfev1980]

Yeah they had all the guns in the running in an issue of the "army/navy/Marine" Times a few months back. The 92FS (M9) was offered in both 9mm and .40. My guess is the 9mm will be selected for the reasons I stated before. The cost of the round is also a factor. I figure there are about 300,000 M9s or so in service right now. If you figure we put 3 boxes of rounds a year through each of them and the difference between a box of 9mm and .40 is a dollar (which it isn't...lol) that's a million a year on rounds alone saved.

I've got the article on my desk. I'll try to see if I can find it online and link to it.

[Sonic82]

Originally Posted by pfev1980

If you figure we put 3 boxes of rounds a year through each of them and the difference between a box of 9mm and .40 is a dollar (which it isn't...lol) that's a million a year on rounds alone saved.

yeah..but you'll only have to shoot half as many