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Old 03-07-2011, 01:58 AM   #11
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Mine doen't have a mag safety and I expect you can still order them with out. I wonder if some states require them or would take issue if removed?
Yes California requires a mag disconnect to be legally sold in CA. If it was removed later I can't see how anyone would find out to "take issue". Of course I can't see ever needing to fire a round with no mag in the MP so I have no problem with that feature.

M14 I'm surprised the thumb safety bothers you. Being in the same location as my 1911s it is a comfort to me having all my pistols operate the same.
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The easy way, unload the pistol/remove the mag, clear the action then release the slide. With the firearm pointed in a safe direction pull the trigger, if you hear the striker fire no mag safety, if no striker fire you have a mag safety.

If you shoot a hole in the floor you didn't follow the instrustion completly and no mag safety.
Well, No mag Safety. No hole in the floor either.
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Yes California requires a mag disconnect to be legally sold in CA. If it was removed later I can't see how anyone would find out to "take issue". Of course I can't see ever needing to fire a round with no mag in the MP so I have no problem with that feature.

M14 I'm surprised the thumb safety bothers you. Being in the same location as my 1911s it is a comfort to me having all my pistols operate the same.
When they are not needed, I don't like them. The M&P, being striker fired like a Glock, does not need one.
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While looking I came across this well written and illustrated M&P DIY trigger job;

M&P DIY trigger job
I shoot USPSA with that guy
Dan Burwell does some great work with the m&p's
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How can you tell if it has mag safety?
RTFM, or read the pistol. If it's the model with no mag lock, it will say "caution capable of firing with magazine removed" on the slide.
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Yes California requires a mag disconnect to be legally sold in CA. If it was removed later I can't see how anyone would find out to "take issue". Of course I can't see ever needing to fire a round with no mag in the MP so I have no problem with that feature.
If removed, the only time it would be an issue is if you used your firearm to defend yourself and some libitard used that against you in court. Stating the firearm had been modified and not leagal in your state.

I agree the mag disconnect shouldn't be an issue as most of the time firing your pistol you will have a mag in place. I think the school of though against them is it is one more mechanical thing that could malfunction. I know some police departments like them because if the officer has to struggle with a bad guy for his duty pistol if they can hit the mag release the pistol will not fire.
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If removed, the only time it would be an issue is if you used your firearm to defend yourself and some libitard used that against you in court. Stating the firearm had been modified and not leagal in your state.

I agree the mag disconnect shouldn't be an issue as most of the time firing your pistol you will have a mag in place. I think the school of though against them is it is one more mechanical thing that could malfunction. I know some police departments like them because if the officer has to struggle with a bad guy for his duty pistol if they can hit the mag release the pistol will not fire.
Agreed, it can be just as important to take a gun out of a fight in unusual situations.
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RTFM, or read the pistol. If it's the model with no mag lock, it will say "caution capable of firing with magazine removed" on the slide.
Made me look and it is there. I guess that is an easier way to tell I haven't read the fine print on my pistol for awhile, thanks Cane.
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Can the thumb safety be added? That is a feature that will be on my next M&P if I can't add it to the one I have.

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